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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2012, 12:13:28 pm »
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Next patch - higher riding, reducing wpf. So next thing is a horse archers on Sumpter horse.
Devs shod tell comunyty is this a final, so archers over 30 lvl can make respec for new builds.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2012, 12:26:19 pm »
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waitting for free respec.
Good luck, but... ehm, have you ever seen free respec in cRPG? I'm not an archer but partial free respec - possibility to remove skill points from ATH and put them somewhere else - would be fair move  :rolleyes:
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2012, 12:34:06 pm »
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It's a beta mod, you can't expect a free respecc every time something changes. Over 24 gens I had to respecc several times, specially on lvl 32 and 33.



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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2012, 12:35:15 pm »
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2012, 12:47:36 pm »
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yeah tbh archers are gay, i think everyone that uses 2h and kuyak should absorb arrows and it should add to hp because kuyak is cool and 2h is cool and takes skill makes user look like aragorn who is also cool, but archery is gay, because makes you look like legolas, who is gay, and therefore archery gay.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2012, 01:01:53 pm »
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Please God save archers...
                         
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2012, 01:47:40 pm »
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Why do high-agi melee char with a great long bardiche can hit&run (which is basically kiting) and archer shouldn't be able to do that?

Because they are not comparable examples.

Regardless of how much agility he has, the guy with the Great Long Bardiche or other long four directional weapon still needs to step within retaliation range of his opponent to actually do damage. Said opponent will be able to block, counterattack, and potentially defeat him as a result. An 18/24 archer, on the other hand, does not need to step within retaliation range of his opponent to do damage. If he is playing correctly, the archer will be able to run away from his opponent almost indefinitely and deal damage in such a way that his opponent has no chance of counterattacking--ever--unless it's a thrower.

Even still, this might be a somewhat acceptable situation if this 18/24 archer, the one that is effectively invulnerable against the majority of melee players in 1v1, wasn't also the most accurate and damaging kind of archer as well. As many, many people have previously pointed out, a 30 str 10pd archer only does a little more damage than a 18/24 archer at distances closer than 20m and actually does less damage than an 18/24 archer at distances further than 20m due to much higher wpf. The 18/24 archer has fantastic draw speed and accuracy compared to the 30 str 10 pd archer for the same reason. How is this in any way balanced?

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2012, 01:55:43 pm »
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9 wm and 2 athl for tzeh win. :D
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2012, 02:14:03 pm »
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Regardless of how much agility he has, the guy with the Great Long Bardiche or other long four directional weapon still needs to step within retaliation range of his opponent to actually do damage. Said opponent will be able to block, counterattack, and potentially defeat him as a result. An 18/24 archer, on the other hand, does not need to step within retaliation range of his opponent to do damage. If he is playing correctly, the archer will be able to run away from his opponent almost indefinitely and deal damage in such a way that his opponent has no chance of counterattacking--ever--unless it's a thrower.
Well archers have their drawbacks for that, like low armor, low melee capabilities and so on, I think just that everyone should be free to use his athletics as he wants because otherwise there's no much sense in getting ath at all.
And I don't mind increasing damage of str-archers, I think that would be fine and would make more versality for archer builds.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2012, 02:31:01 pm »
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If archers aren't able to use as much ath then they should be given more melee capabilities so they can stand and fight when the time comes. Not just a 0 slot hammer. And no, sacrificing a bag of arrows for a 1 slot weapon isn't particularly viable either unless the arrow count increases.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2012, 02:37:38 pm »
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I'm highly disappointed... Not an agreeable "solution" to a "problem". Sure it'll get tweaked, I'll wait and see for that, but I am struggling to find words to describe this "addition" without being sarcastic, going over the same points again and generally not shouting abuse at people who don't deserve it, it's a beta created by people who do this for free and they don't need the agro but... Gah...
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2012, 02:45:24 pm »
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My archer build before:
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How I would make my archer build now:
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So how about you try something new where you don't run away but fight when someone comes near?
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2012, 02:48:47 pm »
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You don't need 7 PS, not with new Longsword/HBS values. Also that new dagger is wicked, 4 PS is enough for it.

Too bad arba still generates low scores, I was thinking of arba+rondel+buckler build.

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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2012, 02:53:18 pm »
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You don't need 7 PS, not with new Longsword/HBS values. Also that new dagger is wicked, 4 PS is enough for it.

Too bad arba still generates low scores, I was thinking of arba+rondel+buckler build.
Yeah, but I would just end up using a 1h sword instead, so I would need the 7 PS because of the low damage (and lower speed and length for a higher price  too). And that new sexy dagger is badass, but really short. Hmmm, Longbow, Long Arming Sword, Bodkins and dagger? Awwww yeah!
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Re: Is archery bugged atm?
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2012, 02:54:27 pm »
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Does anyone have the formula for how many wpf 1 Ath consumes? Thanks :)
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