Market place dead?

[LordBerenger]

I do. That's why I think it is wrong in a game where balance is important. I want all players to have characters of absolutely the same value. (Ofc different levels and really bad builds are not taken nto account).

Too short. Rephrase yourself in 500 more letters than you already got.

[Gristle]

I personally never liked the market. The devs used it as an excuse to not refund heirloom points when they broke weapons, and then it became impossible to get a fair deal on the weapons anyway since everyone knew the weapon sucked at that time. I always thought we should have been given an heirloom respec option instead.

Being able to directly buy heirloom points now is pretty cool though.

[Kafein]

But ow can I haz titlez witout merkel profitz ?

No, seriously, the trading game is fun. At times, funnier than cRPG.

[Macropus]

Actually marketplace is nice if you follow the main rule: do not accept anybody's offer, create your own one.

[Vibe]

I'm being completely honest when I add a "where YOU make profit" tag to my shop. That is because I do not trade for profit, I trade because I actually just want to exchange my looms. This is why I often give a nice amount of gold for looms I really want. Whenever I'm respeccing/retiring I lose about 200k gold in trades because of this. I don't mind because I'm not trying to pile up a massive amount of gold and looms.

Check my shoppe:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/selltrade/vibe%27s-trades/msg586132/#msg586132

[Fartface]

I used to make around 1.5m profit each week , now after tax I got myself  6mw´s and I got 10k gold tax ruined me!

[Falka]

I don't see any problem with market. Nobody has to accept offers which he finds unreasonable. When I want some item I pay for it whatever seller demands, e.g. for +3 dark cav robe I traded in +3 normal cav robe and on the top added 315 k and I think it was fair deal. But if I have items which I don't use I put a couple of offers on the market demanding some extra gold. If someone will accept - great, if not - great as well.

Now that way people knew that it was stupid to demand extra for a trade if your own item only had 1 or 2 offers againts the item you wanted had 10 or 11..

Now im not butthurt just a bit annoyed that people dont think before putting out offers for an item...

You're wrong. It's more than probable that someone will accept any offer, no matter how stupid you think it is. Checking supply and demand is also waste of time if you're not looking for any specific item.

[Kafein]

What Tzar points out is that the spread (difference between minimal selling and maximal buying price) is high, which is a sign of bad market fluidity.

There are only a few reasons for this :

- The tax, because people don't want to trade things for gold
- Rare items come in extremely short supply, most of it already in the hands of those that use them (throwing weapons are a good example). And the demand is rather low too, so few new items arrive).
- Common items (like a MW DGS) have become speculation toys, because everyone that needs one already has it.

[Falka]

What Tzar points out is that the spread (difference between minimal selling and maximal buying price) is high,

But is it a problem? If you want to buy rare and at the same time good item you have to expect to either pay decent amount of gold or trade in another rare item and maybe even add some gold. Seems fair in my opinion.

- The tax, because people don't want to trade things for gold

People don't want to buy for gold, but they're more than willing to sell for gold. Ofc not for 800 k, but from my experience 1.2 - 1.25 mln allows to buy any item in no time.

[peter_afca7]

Now would be a good time to remove looms from the game. Oh could you imagine the tears!

cRPG is FUN because of the retirements and as reward LP so if they get removed why playing for nothing?

[Riddaren]

cRPG is FUN because of the retirements and as reward LP so if they get removed why playing for nothing?

Don't mind Teeth. He complains a lot.

[Fartface]

The fact that I can't trade my +3 wisby gauntlets for +3 heavy gauntlets means evrything , already up for 4 days and nobody accepted.

[SixThumbs]

This is funny because I had just considered putting up a thread involving some PMs where I had made the trader an even more ridiculous offer.

[Kafein]

Don't mind Teeth. He complains a lot.

I think someone opening an arcade near Teeth's home would become a millionaire.

But is it a problem? If you want to buy rare and at the same time good item you have to expect to either pay decent amount of gold or trade in another rare item and maybe even add some gold. Seems fair in my opinion.

I never said it was bad, I just mean there is not so much activity on the marketplace. You have situations like "offer A : item X vs item Y + 100k gold, offer B : item Y vs item X + 100k gold". Either people are really patient, either they think their item is better, in which case it is strange they want to exchange it in the first place.

People don't want to buy for gold, but they're more than willing to sell for gold. Ofc not for 800 k, but from my experience 1.2 - 1.25 mln allows to buy any item in no time.

That's usually coming down to the same thing. Gold itself is not usable on anything, except a small amout of it (compared to the amount of gold in usual heirloom trades) for upkeep. Selling something for gold usually means you are going to buy something else with the gold. People that do that without booths lose a lot of gold through the tax.

[3 Tears]

Whats happened Tzar? Weren't you one of those jews you are talking about?

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