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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 07:21:58 pm »
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Some fixes to strategus:

3) Buying goods no longer costs a tax. The tax is applied when selling goods, based on the selling price, for both fiefs. (if selling fief has 15% tax, and buying fief has 20% tax, the trader keeps 65%)


Wat? Oh come on. Don't tell me what i think it is. Am i just derping or does this mean i won't get any taxes at all when spergs comes to my castle and BUY goods from me?
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 07:22:31 pm »
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Current gain is Prosperity/24.(IE it's now PER DAY instead of good recovery rate, Higher prosperity equal higher goods sold in a day)

So good price doesn't matter anymore for S&D recovery

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 07:23:15 pm »
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Wat? Oh come on. Don't tell me what i think it is. Am i just derping or does this mean i won't get any taxes at all when spergs comes to my castle and BUY goods from me?

No you get more taxes, cuz your tax rate will be applied on sale which is a higher value than at buy.

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 07:25:12 pm »
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Well if the strat team looks into it it should be fairly easy to see which fiefs have jacked up stats from the respec bug. Simplest solution would be a forced stat reset and points reset to (starting points)+(points/day)(days since strat 4 launch) for all fiefs. I have a feeling that plenty of lords will want this anyways with the new changes.

Would be kinda dumb to reset everyone. Only people who abused the reset option should be reset, and not to day 1 either just rolled back to date they reset.

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 07:28:41 pm »
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No you get more taxes, cuz your tax rate will be applied on sale which is a higher value than at buy.

SO let me get this right.

I'll get my taxes when the ones who buy my goods sells their goods? So let's say Turboflex comes to my castle and buy 500 goods. He goes to say...Shariz in EU that means i will take part of that juicy bonus and get my gold when the buyer of my goods sells it? Uh..even though it sounds good i hope i don't get traders who'll travel far away. Gonna take some time getting gold then.
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2012, 07:32:19 pm »
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SO let me get this right.

I'll get my taxes when the ones who buy my goods sells their goods? So let's say Turboflex comes to my castle and buy 500 goods. He goes to say...Shariz in EU that means i will take part of that juicy bonus and get my gold when the buyer of my goods sells it? Uh..even though it sounds good i hope i don't get traders who'll travel far away. Gonna take some time getting gold then.

Ah so it's a back tax? Interesting. Sounds better then.
So that rather than paying tax buying and selling you pay at selling and at selling price.

That SHOULD encourage people with low cost to keep it at like 5-10% and high cost at like 10-15%. Also, that should remove the people "asking for money" for s/d since they get it back in the back tax. Encourage people to buy and use your s/d so you make lots of money on taxes.
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2012, 07:36:06 pm »
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3) Buying goods no longer costs a tax. The tax is applied when selling goods, based on the selling price, for both fiefs. (if selling fief has 15% tax, and buying fief has 20% tax, the trader keeps 65%)

I don't like this. You make much less gold with this as trader. Also what happens if the fief you bought the goods from raises its tax while you're underway... do you pay the final tax? That sucks.

Example:
100 goods bought at 5 with 10% tax = -500 gold, -50 gold tax
100 goods sold at 20 with 10% tax = 2000 gold, -200 gold tax
= 1250 gold profit

100 goods bought at 5 with 10% tax = -500 gold
100 goods sold at 20 with 10% tax = 2000 gold, -200 gold tax, -200 gold tax
= 1100 gold profit

BTW... doesn't that mean, all the selling fiefs get much more taxes then the buying fiefs? Why should anyone try to sell goods now?
In my example the selling fief gets 700 gold, the buying fief only 200 gold.  :shock:


Forget about that... the selling price doesn't go to the village...

Also found one bug: I have some goods, that were at +x% bonus already, they are at -50% now. Please don't tell me I marched for one day just for nothing...
« Last Edit: October 18, 2012, 07:52:50 pm by dodnet »
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2012, 07:40:51 pm »
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What is this respec abuse everyone is talking about? What did it do?
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2012, 07:42:51 pm »
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2012, 07:44:32 pm »
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Only thing the tax does is stop SD theft (sadly) and made it so that the fiefs themselves are important again.

I guess UIFs whining on forums about SD terrorism have worked. GJ UIF....
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 07:46:58 pm »
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Only thing the tax does is stop SD theft (sadly) and made it so that the fiefs themselves are important again.

I guess UIFs whining on forums about SD terrorism have worked. GJ UIF....
Seriously? Is 5% that much? Yes, it makes sd theft a bit less profitable, but for sure doesn't stop it.

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2012, 07:58:05 pm »
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2) Added weight penalty on goods if you have more of them than troops. With 100 troops, you can have 2*100 goods without penalty, but not 1*200, or even 1*101.

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2012, 08:03:54 pm »
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nerf to bulk traders in large clans.

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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2012, 08:05:05 pm »
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Seriously? Is 5% that much? Yes, it makes sd theft a bit less profitable, but for sure doesn't stop it.
Default tax is 5 % easy to get it up to 20 25.
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Re: Strategus Changes
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2012, 08:08:04 pm »
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Also found one bug: I have some goods, that were at +x% bonus already, they are at -50% now. Please don't tell me I marched for one day just for nothing...
Same thing happened to me went from +~100% to -50%.