sad but true

[Overdriven]

I hardly ever notice enemy ranged with my hoplite, shielder or my xbow (arb+2h mace). The only time I notice it is on my 2h because no shield or cav because my horse quickly gets shot down if I'm not careful.

Latvian's server example is poor simply because small servers always attract more ranged than melee. EU4 is frequently filled with a very disproportionate amount of ranged, EU1 isn't so bad and is perfectly manageable. As others have said, I think it would be fine if the balance between the classes was more or less equal.

The other issue is the xbow. I don't understand why it has no requirements. Yeah yeah historically it was easier to use but when has crpg ever been particularly about realism? I've picked up arbalest's in strat and gotten decent numbers of kills with 0 wpf on my horse archer main. The accuracy is far to high and I also think there should be a PD like requirement as with bows. Maybe not as steep as bows, but it should be there because the number of guys lugging around xbows can be staggering sometimes.

Haven't looked through the entire thread but has joker been in yet suggesting a different game mode? 

[Osiris]

far more annoying than the ever rising numbers of archers are the tons of HA and HX that seem to have infested eu1 and dont give me that HA dont hurt you bs because they do

[rAve]

I hardly ever notice enemy ranged with my hoplite, shielder or my xbow (arb+2h mace). The only time I notice it is on my 2h because no shield or cav because my horse quickly gets shot down if I'm not careful.

Latvian's server example is poor simply because small servers always attract more ranged than melee. EU4 is frequently filled with a very disproportionate amount of ranged, EU1 isn't so bad and is perfectly manageable. As others have said, I think it would be fine if the balance between the classes was more or less equal.

Haven't looked through the entire thread but has joker been in yet suggesting a different game mode? 

from a playerbase of 120 down to 70! aus server had to be removed cuz there weren't enough players, the mod is dying and its cuz of the amount of ranged players who simply take out the fun.
bring back Vanilla crpg!

[Overdriven]

Or perhaps its because this is a pretty old game, other newer games are being released pretty much constantly and people are finally beginning to lose interest after grinding dozens of generations?

[Arrowblood]

from a playerbase of 120 down to 70! aus server had to be removed cuz there weren't enough players, the mod is dying and its cuz of the amount of ranged players who simply take out the fun.
bring back Vanilla crpg!

I heard u ride a arabian warhorse so shut up pls.

[rAve]

I heard u ride a arabian warhorse so shut up pls.

i sold the go-cart for a masterwork 2hander, only played cav one gen to try it

Or perhaps its because this is a pretty old game, other newer games are being released pretty much constantly and people are finally beginning to lose interest after grinding dozens of generations?

nah not really, as long as ppl enjoy something, they won't leave it and go play something else, true a lot of games being released, but there aren't any good action online rpgs out there like this mod (or how it used to be... )

[F i n]

Or perhaps its because this is a pretty old game, other newer games are being released pretty much constantly and people are finally beginning to lose interest after grinding dozens of generations?

You fuckin mad?

[Tzar]

Just remove kiting an force them to go melee.....

Problem solved most people i know only goes archer to troll people and kite thats where they get their kicks while serious archers would be fine with removal of kiting an we would start to see archer carrying real backup weapons. Watch Guard tennoth fx only archer i know that carries backup weapon an not some silly shit 0slot ohh shit weapon

An remove Couch from the heavy lance to bring in more diversity for cav weapon choices. 

There you have just removed to two most easy fuckin ways of getting kills in cRPG..  these classes are just overused because its low risk high rewards classes..

Classes that have low risk and high reward will allways be the majority

[IR_Kuoin]

Increase weight of bows and arrows to give the archers less "run / kite" speed?

[Latvian]

atleast slow down archers when they draw bow because i think everyone knows that retard thingy when you follow archer but he just draws bow than runs sideways(without any speed penalty) and than turns and  shoots you without even aiming (in my case it is headshot almost 50 % (true story))

[Overdriven]

nah not really, as long as ppl enjoy something, they won't leave it and go play something else, true a lot of games being released, but there aren't any good action online rpgs out there like this mod (or how it used to be... )

If anyone plays enough of a game they will get tired of it eventually regardless of how good it is. Considering a huge number of people here have clocked 1000's of hours it's only normal that eventually the numbers will drop with no new players really coming into it. I took a break for over 6 months at one point, hardly touching the game. Now I'm playing sporadically but with no where near as much interest as I used to because I've played so much.

I know we have some layabouts here, but for people who have a job and lives it can be difficult to play multiple games. I still have games left over from the steam summer sale which I have yet to touch because I'm slowly making my way through them. Some people may play an hour or 2 of crpg, but new games will always distract for a while. Particularly those with mp content.

atleast slow down archers when they draw bow because i think everyone knows that retard thingy when you follow archer but he just draws bow than runs sideways(without any speed penalty) and than turns and  shoots you without even aiming (in my case it is headshot almost 50 % (true story))

This I actually agree with. WotR principle.

[Osiris]

Just make range ammo looms increase stack size and not damage. Thats why ranged rapes everyone becasue they get double damage bonus

[Tears of Destiny]

Or perhaps its because this is a pretty old game, other newer games are being released pretty much constantly and people are finally beginning to lose interest after grinding dozens of generations?

This probably, anyways NA is still thriving compared to our usual numbers, last night NA_1 was about 90 players and NA_2 about 70, Community was another couple dozen and DtV another 7. Friday and weekend nights it gets even busier.

[Pejlaen]

just got strat battle and got 75% of the time headshot time to let EU_1 go and do something else

That might have been my bad.

[Ad1no]

save crpg

nerf ranged