cRPG Items [NSFW]

[vinnytk]

As long as it gets rid of the anime items that ruin my immersion

[MountedRhader]

Troll thread??

Well u would also have to remove ninja items and samurai items and poleaxe and bec corbin and tons of other weapons that dont belong in the 13th century europe list goes on....

Bec de Corbin is 13'th century. It was in native listed as polehammer.

[Casimir]

As much as i hate silly weeabo gear this would ruin the feel of crpg, which is so different to native. Anyway there is plate armour in native but its just ugly as hell.

If your gunna try and take away my plate then you can just forget yourself!

[Braeden]

Had to point this out. Its not 13th century. Its  15th to 16th century.  I'm not certain where you got the notion it was based on the 13th century.

::update:: are you basing it off of the year stated in the bottom right corner of the campaign? It does state 1257, but bare in mind its a fictional land and the calendar year does not necessarily reflect our calendar.

He's basing that off developer statements, specifically those wondering if they should remove all non-13th century gear.

[Casimir]

Do the devs not think thats its the variety of items that makes cRPG so much more interesting than native?

[Ujin]

Templars   http://www.greyfriars51.fsnet.co.uk/templar%20battle.jpg       boring

vs 16th century

Gothic knights

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http://forum.paticik.com/thumbnails/59b/bf0/e25/3f0/b0f/07e/26d/f96/33d/bd9/30_450xNULL.jpg ,  http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_29.151.2,32.69.jpg, http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/300100.jpg , http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_33.164.jpg

; italian light cavalry armor

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http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_14.25.716.jpg

   pretty damn cool






My conclusion - some stuff from later centuries is much more interesting and fun to see than your average 13th century "properly" equipped soldier. Even though i am the leader of a clan based on japanese samurai culture, doesn't mean we don't appreciate  some of the state of the art european armors and weapons of the more late period of history.

By the way, same goes for the japanese samurai warfare evolution from 12th-13th to 16th centuries, if your average samurai in 13th century was a horse archer and looked something like this :

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/dannyboyo68/sam13.jpg, http://samurai-warriors.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/samurai-armor.jpg;

Whereas a sengoku-jidai period 16th century samurai would look like this :

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/WLA_lacma_Japan_Samurai_Armor_of_the_Gusoku_type.jpg, http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/165/357/893/japanese-wearable-r-stung-samurai-armor-suit-black-02-bc1d5.jpg, http://wb5.itrademarket.com/pdimage/18/893618_samurai-armour.jpg, http://www.daimyo-lords-of-japan.com/NewFiles/dscn5572.jpg, http://www.corbisimages.com/images/WF002277.jpg?size=67&uid=44574527-18f9-4ef6-95e7-f9712f287b35&uniqID=61b476e8-11b2-47fd-a270-18db9975b6a2

So my point is - dropping stuff from the late centuries might bring some historical accuracy to the game, maybe some authentic feel (doubt it), but why would you degrade the game to such a level, throwing away so many interesting armors and weapons of the late period ? So i'd have to agree with Casimir on this one, variety is good, it's Calradia, not the History Channel.

[Jacko]

DOO IIIIT! NAWW!

[BlameMeForTheNoise]

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Templars   http://www.greyfriars51.fsnet.co.uk/templar%20battle.jpg       boring

vs 16th century

Gothic knights

(click to show/hide)

http://forum.paticik.com/thumbnails/59b/bf0/e25/3f0/b0f/07e/26d/f96/33d/bd9/30_450xNULL.jpg ,  http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_29.151.2,32.69.jpg, http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/300100.jpg , http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_33.164.jpg

; italian light cavalry armor

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http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/h2/h2_14.25.716.jpg

   pretty damn cool






My conclusion - some stuff from later centuries is much more interesting and fun to see than your average 13th century "properly" equipped soldier. Even though i am the leader of a clan based on japanese samurai culture, doesn't mean we don't appreciate  some of the state of the art european armors and weapons of the more late period of history.

By the way, same goes for the japanese samurai warfare evolution from 12th-13th to 16th centuries, if your average samurai in 13th century was a horse archer and looked something like this :

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/dannyboyo68/sam13.jpg, http://samurai-warriors.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/samurai-armor.jpg;

Whereas a sengoku-jidai period 16th century samurai would look like this :

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/WLA_lacma_Japan_Samurai_Armor_of_the_Gusoku_type.jpg, http://cdn1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/165/357/893/japanese-wearable-r-stung-samurai-armor-suit-black-02-bc1d5.jpg, http://wb5.itrademarket.com/pdimage/18/893618_samurai-armour.jpg, http://www.daimyo-lords-of-japan.com/NewFiles/dscn5572.jpg, http://www.corbisimages.com/images/WF002277.jpg?size=67&uid=44574527-18f9-4ef6-95e7-f9712f287b35&uniqID=61b476e8-11b2-47fd-a270-18db9975b6a2

So my conclusion is - dropping stuff from the late centuries might bring some historical accuracy to the game, maybe some authentic feel (doubt it), but why would you degrade the game to such a level, throwing away so many interesting armors and weapons of the late period ? So i'd have to agree with Casimir on this one, variety is good, it's Calradia, not the History Channel.

I agree with that. And my 5 Cents: I wouldn't appreciate it simply because of the diversity. The Item-Team does a great job but we all know how long it takes for new items to get implemented... Not to speak of the texturing/modelling...

So it will be a big cut to the diversity. And thats lame. F**k historical accuracy. Its a game. I want fun.

[gazda]

wll this is a nice idea, but then you would need to add MANY more 13th century armours and weapons, which wouldnt be so hard couse there are many out there ;)

[Vibe]

Until I see BFGs, rocket launchers and plasma guns ingame I won't complain. Perhaps.

[Kafein]

As long as it gets rid of the anime items that ruin my immersion

Pretty much sums up my opinion. Long maul seems odd (although under some assumptions it's not ruining the balance), black plate (26st century equipment) has to be removed. Heavy plate for it's uber uglyness and bugged texture, and lamellar cuirass because the texture is just fail.

[Thomek]

Yes let's STREAMLINE the design of cRPG.

Sorry more caps in spoiler.. 1st and only time I ever write in so many caps.

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Let's make it as GENERIC as possible as the other one Gazillion games out there. Where everything fits in their own INCREDIBLY IMAGINATIVE UNIVERSES.. Let's make a super intriguing BACKSTORY that will help with IMMERSION. Let's ATTRACT MORE HISTORY&REALISM FREAKS..

The spoilered sentences above was mostly ironic. (In case some americans didn't get it)

I mean.. this is of course a valid topic, but the scope of it is beyond what c-RPG can currently be, and contains countless pitfalls. All respect for the makers, but the very name of the mod: c-RPG is simply a terrible name, that tells you nothing.. And I really really like that! It also names no boundaries to what it can be, time period, setting etc. If anything it contains "be what you want"!. Be it Conan, Ninja, Templar, Mongol, or a freckled girl with pink hair throwing rocks at people.

If anything, this freedom, creativity, and FUN is the very soul and Unique feature of c-RPG.

And I have to beg the holy makers, to consider this before they do mad changes and think up a "Concept/setting/story" and start limiting the mod. But yeah.. a healthy discussion about these topics would be good, and we would have something to argue about before patch :-)

[MrExxc]

Yes let's STREAMLINE the design of cRPG.

Sorry more caps in spoiler.. 1st and only time I ever write in so many caps.

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Let's make it as GENERIC as possible as the other one Gazillion games out there. Where everything fits in their own INCREDIBLY IMAGINATIVE UNIVERSES.. Let's make a super intriguing BACKSTORY that will help with IMMERSION. Let's ATTRACT MORE HISTORY&REALISM FREAKS..

The spoilered sentences above was mostly ironic. (In case some americans didn't get it)

I mean.. this is of course a valid topic, but the scope of it is beyond what c-RPG can currently be, and contains countless pitfalls. All respect for the makers, but the very name of the mod: c-RPG is simply a terrible name, that tells you nothing.. And I really really like that! It also names no boundaries to what it can be, time period, setting etc. If anything it contains "be what you want"!. Be it Conan, Ninja, Templar, Mongol, or a freckled girl with pink hair throwing rocks at people.

If anything, this freedom, creativity, and FUN is the very soul and Unique feature of c-RPG.

And I have to beg the holy makers, to consider this before they do mad changes and think up a "Concept/setting/story" and start limiting the mod. But yeah.. a healthy discussion about these topics would be good, and we would have something to argue about before patch :-)

I could not have said it better. I would only like to add that this is what makes c-RPG so interesting to my eyes, the diversity of armors and "cultural" styles. I love seeing those battlefields with tons of different outfits, it's just so beautiful and epic. I understand the concern of the developpers that might wonder if their game isn't turning in some sort of lolol game. But I think this is what people ultimately like about it, at least that is what I immediately noticed and enjoyed about the mod when I first arrived here. Finally, it's tru we got some 16th century weapons etc., but it sort off fits together I think. It's not as if we got lightsabers and guns...

[Kai_123]

just wondering, what would happen wiht the heirloom 16 centuried weapons will they just disapear or...

[Blondin]

I like the idea, but i like diversity too, as said Thomek, you can be anything you want.

So may be you can keep cRPG as it is and make Strategus 13th accurate, it could be better for the immersion and story line.