With regards to all that, first off I have no issues with the nords attacking adelen, it was expected since the outbreak of war, hence the fact that the defences there have been built up. As you have said, the tit for tat stuff leads to both sides feeling justified in their actions whilst getting annoyed at the conduct of the other. So its not worth it, at the end of the day, regardless of how we got here, we're at war so lets enjoy it
However I will reiterate that SoA took possession of Sumbuja by its own means, the village fell to Torben (we had no influence on that) and it was no longer for the Nords to offer to give away, so on those grounds it is reasonable to say the "deal" was off. Also, the deal was proposed in peacetime, shortly afterwards war was declared and, as said by Gurni in the "annexation" thread (I dont know how to cross-topic quote
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"Anyway, Cooties decided that SoA in our territory should be attacked on site, even though we mentioned the fact that they were promised to move through our land peacefully. That's what you get from a bad siege, a mad dictator wielding his whip mercilessly.
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So again, reasonable to assume any friendly deals are off at this time yes?
Also, "claiming" a fief does not make it yours and whilst I will grant that we would have been hard pressed into to hold them I take a slight personal exception to the air of superiority that surrounds the way you talk of such things, lets keep it respectful, we are all just playing a game here after all
Finally, if it was a friendly takeover then why'd you march straight up and besiege the place, rather than signalling your intentions/desires to us beforehand?
Good luck in you future attacks
We are fine with the defences though, we expected it (hence the -3 gear crap).
We're not the ones arguing, we just respond. The facts are rarely cited by those in control, hence my post. When people question "why we are where we are" - obviously the facts should be put on the table, so you shouldn't belittle that. I find it a funny that all of the sudden it doesn't matter how we got here when it was so important for you all in the beginning, mmhmm
You do though cite Gurnisson, whom you should understand is not an officer, nor have access to the internal debates om Strategus matters. I am also certain his line is sarcastic, so quoting him will do you no favours
there is no dictatorship in Nords, we all talk, post and vote on issues as mature adults, and in spirit of how we believe Strategus should be played.
We are all for enjoying the War game, as we've reiterated plenty of times so far. We're against diminishing the game by abusing features to block prime time.
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login Here's for the battles and the War. Good game to SoA, no hard feelings from our end.
Let me add few facts that you are skipping over there
Could you also please write about how you took fiefs for free and broke every promise you gave by saying
We haven't agree to it we said we will discuss it within the clan
Also Ismirala was offered to Nords, you guys chose something silly like "I can give you 90 days of NAP for this castle"
I believe your arrogance was damaged when you attacked us and saw what happened, also your raid have failed and we could reinforce our army to catch the running army of Andswaru (which you had reinforcements from other clans) I promise you could never see them on Nord lands again. Just our naked army of horsemen did enough damage to your pride I believe. So you can say anything you want, but please leave your arrogance behind when you are doing it.
Cheers.
Haha Nocti, you're a hilarious fellow. Hurt our pride? Sorry but we don't fight, live and breathe Strategus. We play it for what it is -
a game. It isn't
life. Losing or getting wiped is of no importance to us, we've been wiped before, and life went on.
All we care about is not being lame or abusing.
Regarding the horse battle, most of us thought it was hilarious, some of the horses (destriers) had +40 charge damage -- due to some bug I presume, given it is higher than +3 horses in normal C-RPG -- obviously they'd do a ton of damage on low-end footwear.
I applaud that battle, not detest it. There have been plenty of successful armies that were fully naked.
We also btw didn't get any reinforcements in terms of troops or gear from any other factions here. The only outside help we've had so far was Hetman helping to chase one of your many suspect characters (which had an army) inside our lands.
Maybe next round you'll communicate with your allies and friends more, that'll make it easier for you to build some new friendships. We've been hit since the beginning by a multitude of your allies and friends, whom been stealing S&D/goods from us. Kapikulu, Wolves, Deserters, other randoms, ALL of them fled through our Eastern Border, past Ismirala Castle.
We want that Castle to control our border against S&D terrorism.
Nothing else can end this conflict.
Also Ismirala was offered to Nords, you guys chose something silly like "I can give you 90 days of NAP for this castle"
We were offered the castle only in return for joining Alliance 2 (or that we declared war on Alliance 1) and obviously no way we would put ourselves under an Alliance or cause for simply a castle.
NAPs that include telling members to not sign for specific battles are highly valuable IMO. Battles is what the mod is about and there's nothing worse than not having any battles to sign for. Clans need enemies.
Mercs made clear, many times, that you wanted Ismirala Castle, and that you never wanted to give it up due to bridge control I believe it was.
So we went for it, and yes you
"bravely" had CaNJohN join Templars remotely via the faction join feature to try and stop us, and when we waited with attacking for 1 hour -- I waited inside the Castle for a full hour with the army -- in order to allow people to talk with each other on VOIP, you then used that hour to set your night time to block prime time attacks and force the battle to 03AM.
