Secondly if Dave is your Diplomat then may the lord have mercy on you. The man is a liability of the highest level, he came on TS and made an ass out of himself by repeatedly talking over others and claiming to know all the facts when all the previous dealings Nords had had were with Tyr or Muffin. That was the reason why he was kicked. He then spent over an hour in our IRC channel asking questions which we answered reasonably and honestly (due to the fact he cant talk over others in IRC so we could actually communicate with him successfully).
That once again proves who you are.
First, I came to your TS with the full knowledge of what was going on, I knew each of your conversations with our leaders, I probably knew even something more.
Second, you were trying to avoid conversation with anybody of Mercs, ignoring Tyr and sitting in hidden room in TS. If not Bagge, who grabbed me into the channel, I would wait way more in your TS.
Third, you kept mumbling that you don't get my point and asked to explain what I want over and over, making fool of yourself and saying like "man, I don't get what you're talking about, explain your point". I told you exactly what Nocti wrote in his previous post.
Mercs wanted to see Nords neutral, as Nords presented. Therefor Merc diplomats spoke to SOA and Alpha himself about Jelbegi and the rest to hand it over to Nords without any agression. In exchange for our own fiefs. Rest of the eastern front has supported the idea.
Derchios and Shenuzgda was given to Templars, just for the friendly relations with Nords. Also Templars would gain new allies and man power in south. I thought good will would make a change. We had no intention of draging Nords into an alliance. You'd at least try to talk to us about Ismirala, before preparing a shiny army and kicking the diplomat out of the server. I don't know how the meeting went today, where I left you were saying I'm taking that castle no matter what. Excuse me but saying Free passage for several fiefs....thats a bit arrogant, I also find it quite bold to say : I made a post 10 minutes after you and you either obey it or accept the consequences. I find it quite UIF like, self rightous. But if this is how you want to handle things, I can't stop you.
At least we have tried.
Fourth, you kept giving me bullshit in TS. Don't you remember? "We're not UIF and we're even fighting against UIF! We fought against Druzhina a couple of times, there were 15 Nords in the last battle against Druzhina. Even Vovka came to our TS being mad." which was actually a battle against clan called Vendetta, made of Ukrainians and Russians mostly (Vargrs = former Greys), where only 7 Nords were accepted and ended with mediocre score.
Fifth, just copy the logs of IRC where I was asking questions for 1 hour. You have enough of members who can have those logs. After something like 15-20min of discussions I went AFK and then left the IRC server. Because besides "honest" replies I also got a lot of stupid trolling of your members.
Sixth, and the most important: You already had your plans and ready army when you were talking to me. Also Cooties acted like: everything is fine, don't worry, I'll talk to my members tomorrow and I'll inform you if enemy (UIF) army comes for you through our territories.
So to sum up, all your honest truth was just a part of truth. When we asked direct questions you said "I don't know, I don't decide, I'll ask members", you didn't lied us about what you will do, but you lied that you didn't know what you're going to do. And you could always say something like "we're not going to attack you" actually meaning that you're not going to attack us at this current second but a second later you will be going to do that. That's just a sophisticated lie. If you're so honest and smart you could at least bring a better reason to break all relations than "we had no progress in relations with you" and make a thread that you're attacking Ismirala territory not when you army is standing at the walls of the castle.
I'm out of this thread. I don't want to argue with you, Andswaru, because you'll bring me down to your level and beat me there with your experience, still saying that you don't get my point and need explanation. Have a good day, sir!
