1.5 slot items

[Jarlek]

Light Lance, Bamboo spear & others 2.5 slots? And no more hoplites with Ashwood and 2 slot shields...

I think it should be selected more by weight than length.

Remember that polearms only get the rear horses if they are 141 length or more. Presonally I want all the shorter spears to be 1 or 1.5 slots (since they cant rear horses).

[Kafein]

That might be a little bit too much, but its along the lines of what I would like.
Not sure about 1hers though, might be too high a treshold. (90 length and 1.5 weight might be better, things like nordic war sword, or some axes fit here i think, also niuweidao).
About 2hers, also bastards, katana, axe (under 2 weight) might be 1.5 slots.

Definetly yes.

About poles, ok mostly, not sure about the swiss halberd, but some should be 1.5, what about the boar spear, iron staff and maybe jousting lance?

I don't know about the cav lances, they are a touchy subject. A lancer without sidearm is kinda meh, but a lancer with a poleaxe on his back is just plain OP and retarded. The swiss halberd is already a decent duelling weapon tbh, and there's no reason to give that one 2 slots specifically

Light Lance, Bamboo spear & others 2.5 slots? And no more hoplites with Ashwood and 2 slot shields...

I think it should be selected more by weight than length.

We could very well have 1.5 slot shields too. The huscarl and steel shield should stay 2 slots though, if not more.


Also, all equipment with a 2.5 or higher slot value should be unsheathable, all above or equal to 3 unbalanced (let the poleaxe/GLA/glaive aboozers cry when nerfed by the holy reality check hammer).

[owens]

^ sorry Kafein I have to interject on the shield front.

NO .5 slot shields as a hoplite or man at arms should never get a shield and lance and bastard sword in one package.

I would therefore try my best to avoid shields getting involved thanks a lot anyway for the thought though.

"It is a fairly elegant solution to all this bastard sword one slot nonsense." (wefyb)

I maintain however that light lance, spear, double sided lance and that kind of thing should be 1.5 slot. You could say balance over length. It would be more acceptable for bamboo spear to become 1.5 than ash-wood pike wouldn't it?  I would leave decisions like that to the devs and hope they do the right thing by the community. The purpose is to open new pathways in character design and to try to make the game better.

Remember if x-bows, hybrid-archers and hybrid-cav become a larger threat it in melee polearm and 2H will suffer without any mechanics changing.

[Dalfador]

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[owens]

Also light lance must be 1.5 slots because it is where my idea came from.

[Moncho]

NO .5 slot shields as a hoplite or man at arms should never get a shield and lance and bastard sword in one package.


I maintain however that light lance, spear, double sided lance and that kind of thing should be 1.5 slot. You could say balance over length. It would be more acceptable for bamboo spear to become 1.5 than ash-wood pike wouldn't it?  I would leave decisions like that to the devs and hope they do the right thing by the community. The purpose is to open new pathways in character design and to try to make the game better.

Remember if x-bows, hybrid-archers and hybrid-cav become a larger threat it in melee polearm and 2H will suffer without any mechanics changing.

Kafein did not suggest 0.5 shields, but 1.5, as an intermediate stage, compared to the current 1 to 2 jump.
I think the bamboo should stay at 2 slots (very long), not sure about the other ones.
x-bows hybrids would probably not be more effective since I don't think any crossbow would go under 1 slot, and I am not sure about how many slots per quiver of arrows/bolts.
hybrid archer's biggest problem is not the slots, but the need to sacrifice most of their WPF and many skill points for this (instead of 18/21 go 15/21 or 18/18 for example).
Hybrid cav would have to adapt. The heavy lance should go to 2.5 slots, the lance stay at 2 and not sure about the other ones, and we would be preventing them from getting a secondary top tier weapon (2.5 slots), which would harm them. They could however go for a worse lance and get a better dismounted weapon, being able to get a 1.5 slot light lance and a 2.5 top tier dismounted weapon (though no shield).  Its all about the balance.
As I said before, choose either great at one thing, or good at two (lancing on horse or on foot in this case) (well, or mediocre at 3, or even worse at 4, etc).

[owens]

^sometimes a good weapon can make up a lot for wpf.

An archer with a 1.5 slot bow and 1.5 sword will do more damage than a 1 slot bow at range and less than a 2 slot weapon in melee yet hopefully more than a 1 slot melee.

You are correct in saying that we should be able to make that choice that atm we cannot make, although I have said it a few times...

Thanks for the input

[OssumPawesome]

I'm not sure this is practical.  I hope it is.  It sounds awesome.

[Chris_P_Bacon]

I agree with this on the grounds that it is completely ridiculous that a heavy bastard (and bastard and longsword and katana and maybe a few others) take(s) up the same amount of slots as a flamberge, which is 1.5x the length and twice the weight.

[Beauchamp]

this is a really good idea

regarding the balance i think with Nx0.5 slot weapons it will be easier to achieve then now

[Dalfador]

BUMP

[Iymore]

MAKE STEEL BOLTS 1.5 SLOT

[owens]

^not if it was up to me sorry.

I would also be apprehensive about making unsheathable weapons more than 2 slot. Although in a lot of ways I don't care because I don't play cRPG any more.

I just hope chadz has a plan because ATM cRPG is not very good.

[Dalfador]

bumparooni

[owens]

Bump