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Dear NA Factions
« on: September 26, 2012, 02:09:31 am »
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Stop this damn Locking of borders.

Trade for the independents is practically non-existant now. Big clans have locked up the major high price villages and more or less forced small traders into areas that are shit. At this point, independent trading is next to useless.

Sad thing, my castle makes tons of trades, just never has any S/D. I'm going to fix that. We need a free trader haven. Something not locked down by large clans trying to hold their S/D.

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 02:16:11 am »
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Guess what. Clans are traders too... so we need our S&D.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 02:17:27 am »
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Yeah, this isn't really something that fief owners can just choose to ignore, but rather something the devs need to fix.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 02:24:00 am »
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I would love independent trading in our fiefs if only we wouldn't lose so much from permitting it.

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 02:27:09 am »
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I would love independent trading in our fiefs if only we wouldn't lose so much from permitting it.

and that's the problem. You lose to much letting independants come around. The tax is nice, but in NO way makes up for the negative cost of losing s/d.

My castle never has over 100 S/D now. I don't care as it's a free spot for traders and I'll NEVER change that. But it sucks, I can't sell MY goods cause no one has S/D or they locked down borders.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 02:27:32 am »
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ya its just without a high tax there is nothing the fief owners gain from independent trade, and its much easier to attack the little guys rather than waste points on taxes

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 03:47:34 am »
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Tell ya what, give me a week and we'll designate one of our fiefs strictly for trading to it. Assuming we get a good tax rate in that fief, we will do it and let you know when we do.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 03:50:10 am »
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Yeah, this isn't really something that fief owners can just choose to ignore, but rather something the devs need to fix.

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 03:57:10 am »
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I hereby declare my booty off-limits to all NA clans except by legal writ.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 04:02:30 am »
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Yeah, this isn't really something that fief owners can just choose to ignore, but rather something the devs need to fix.

I wouldnt actually consider this to be a problem. With S&D land and having more fiefs is actually important, having alot of land was pointless in 3.0. More land equals more money, this will drive factions to play more aggressively which is a good thing.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 04:20:40 am »
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S&D is still high in the desert! Come on down to Shariz!

Well Shariz itself is kind of locked down, but nearby castles and villages offer good prices (and distance bonuses) for buying and selling.
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 05:55:50 am »
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I wouldnt actually consider this to be a problem. With S&D land and having more fiefs is actually important, having alot of land was pointless in 3.0. More land equals more money, this will drive factions to play more aggressively which is a good thing.

But Lemmy Winks, what if a clan has only 1 member (lets say you Lemmy Winks) and that members has only 1 fief (lets say for example, oh I don't know, Faraway Ibiran) to trade in, all the rest are closed borders and then that 1 fief is taken from him.  How will he make money to ever take land again with S&D screwed up the way it is?  Obviously this is just a hypothetical example as you still have a fief, you do own Faraway Ibiran, right? So how do you expect independent traders to make it once they have no fiefs and all the other fiefs are inaccessible?
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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 03:34:25 pm »
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I think S&D should just regen quicker, seems too slow at base 200 prosperity per day. Maybe base should be bumped to 300?

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2012, 03:54:23 pm »
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Independant traders boned? Maybe you might, god forbid, make trade agreements with the owners of fiefs? You know, like offering to pay their exorbitant taxes to let you sell your stuff there?

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Re: Dear NA Factions
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 04:02:10 pm »
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I think S&D should just regen quicker, seems too slow at base 200 prosperity per day. Maybe base should be bumped to 300?

Well its only low for fiefs with around <=8 and >=20 prices. Standard 15 gold-fiefs have 2000 or more S&D left, because no one visits them.

One idea might be to split the S&D up into internal S&D (can be used only by clan-members) and external S&D (can be used only by non-clan-members). That would also stop fief owners from whining if someone buys their fief empty (eh, Herkutatti   :wink:). Internal S&D should be much lower ofc, so you're forced to trade with others.
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