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Should mercs get paid if their team won?

Yes. A contract is a contract
18 (48.6%)
No. I like to evaluate their performance, and by that I mean I'm greedy
18 (48.6%)
Other, I'll explain below
1 (2.7%)

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Offline KC_ascanet

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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 01:24:52 am »
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Well I do understand how the current process works.

What I am proposing in this topic is that the feature be changed by the developers to make a contract automatically pay the people who's application were accepted.

It would be awesome if people please stop posting in here explaining how to work around the current system, because while that's helpful.. it's not what this is about.

Devs please reread original post and take it to heart. If you want to see mercs take this mod seriously, this is the first step!

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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 01:30:24 am »
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You only went 13:9, that's not a pay-worthy score imo.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 02:16:04 am »
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You only went 13:9, that's not a pay-worthy score imo.

Wut? how do you KNOW his score. You only know his k/d.  It should record your score at end of battle too. You can go 1:15 and have top of scoreboard or go 15:0 and only middle of pack.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 02:59:40 am »
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If I recall I was 2nd place on the team only miggy had me beat. Though it's irrelevant. I'm more focused on the process of mercing being more integrated into the website

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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 03:04:17 am »
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If I recall I was 2nd place on the team only miggy had me beat. Though it's irrelevant. I'm more focused on the process of mercing being more integrated into the website

Aye but the people who pay can only see your K/D. As such, pay is hard because of that. Even if you did SUPER AWESOME with mass score but have shit K/D don't expect any pay.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 03:11:26 am »
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Only noobs to strat battles ask for payment. I pay people who don't ask anything and do really well. Now if it was cRPG gold that you could request in the system apart from strat gold I'd use it a little more, but strat gold demands this early are too hard to pay out.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2012, 05:52:08 am »
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I am ready to pay to mercs in my battle if they have good skills, cause i'm not in a big clan and sometimes it's hard to make good roster.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2012, 08:08:40 am »
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Wut? how do you KNOW his score. You only know his k/d.  It should record your score at end of battle too. You can go 1:15 and have top of scoreboard or go 15:0 and only middle of pack.

Score doesn't matter in strategus, deaths do.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2012, 08:23:08 am »
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Yeah - its a beautiful idea, but nobody really knows the real value of strat gold either, especially so early in this strat.  Factions are scrambling to make +0 items atm, since everything starts ruined and tattered.  Modest payouts are appropriate, but again, you need to RP pretty hard if you actually value strat gold.  1000 strat gold is a ton atm.  As an individual it would be more appropriate to piece together small sums of gold less than 50 - if the system's to be used at all.

It would be really cool if you had to pay up front - but in all honesty, clan battles and agreements already have it to where they sign up for each other for free - anything less is an insult to their pride.  Already, mercing for clans is a type of backhanded diplomacy for those who are already in clans.  Strat 3 was mostly a cold war for most clans.  If you signed up against those who you were on good or peaceful terms with, they will get suspicious and uneasy, if not, take it as a malicious act - especially if they perform well in an important battle.

To me, that's problematic, and I would like to see a better system, but can not offer one.  I would hope its nothing too drastic.  Its kind of OK how it is.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2012, 06:13:36 pm »
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Better system would be that you can only see the names of people signed up on your side.  The enemy side would be player 1, 2 3, etc.

This was a great suggestion in strat 3 when we had AI fiefs, but still viable in strat 4.

Sure I'm going to recognize some faces like Canary (and potentially the heraldic mail on armor and shields, see below, but I still won't know for sure who they are.  I think this is a perfect solution personally. 

If they were interested in doing something like this, it might not hurt to have everyone's heraldry for the battle to default to the faction's heraldry.  I know it's realistic, and both tactical to have people retain their own heraldry in battles, but it might solve the problem of knowing who's signing up for you in force.

But then again, maybe that's completely a non-issue.
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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2012, 07:09:34 pm »
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I like the idea of anonymity as a merc. So that could be something long-term they address if they decide it fits.

It would be awesome if there was some acknowledgement from devs that the current system could use more work

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Re: Sellswords in Strat
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2012, 10:51:08 pm »
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Bumping this.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/diplomacy/breaking-news-hospitallers-invade-10-man-faction-with-2000-shiny-troops/msg627150/#msg627150

This kind of attitude is horrendus. This is the attitude that makes randoms not wish to play. The attitude of: Well I'm giving you xp, so be grateful i even hired you to get it!

I'll still chug on along as a sellsword, but people just don't want to pay. Not even 10 measly strat gold. Like, how can you be such tightwads like that?

Fix the mercenary attitude!
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