Unban essay.

[Leshma]

I have trouble understanding what he did to deserve permaban. Can anyone explain it in few words?

[Rhygar666]

I have trouble understanding what he did to deserve permaban. Can anyone explain it in few words?

he scammed wiltzu, told OVER 9000 lies and got banned, now hes lying some more to get unbanned.

[Equello]

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So I still need to do this again... here're the last 3 pms he sent me (in order of newest to oldest):

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« Sent to: Wiltzu on: September 16, 2012, 03:02:43 pm »
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All, what i have to say, is that i SAID ALL TRULY.
I accepted offer of someone called "disper" or something like that and ShIELD GONE TO HIM.
And lol, we have 1 network for 2 flats, 2 accounts mine and i connected with you of new one.
WHY DO I HAVE TO BE BANNED? i was trying to connect you after that, WANTED TO GIVE YOUR SWORD BACK for my warhammer... This is not fair. You think iam so stupid dont know that you can talk to admins on IRC and they find out my IP??
Please tell admins to unban me, and i give your f*cking sword back. Greediness kills your honor.


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« Sent to: Wiltzu on: September 16, 2012, 10:03:21 am » ReplyQuoteDelete
dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold?


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« Sent to: Wiltzu on: September 16, 2012, 09:49:44 am »
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plz hurry up, or PM me with decline i have another buyer

So you want to say that only one message i sent you was: dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold?
and then you gone to Meow?

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he scammed wiltzu, told OVER 9000 lies and got banned, now hes lying some more to get unbanned.
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Will not even comment this guy..

[Leshma]

he scammed wiltzu, told OVER 9000 lies and got banned, now hes lying some more to get unbanned.

I understand that he's multiaccounting and that he scammed Wiltzu but I don't understand how? Did Wiltzu gave him items before this guy gave him gold? If so, why people do that these days when everything can be done without any risk?

[Wiltzu]

I understand that he's multiaccounting and that he scammed Wiltzu but I don't understand how? Did Wiltzu gave him items before this guy gave him gold? If so, why people do that these days when everything can be done without any risk?

Leshma read these threads:

1st: http://forum.meleegaming.com/global/unban-request-39233/
2nd: http://forum.meleegaming.com/unban-essays/unban-essay-39319/
3rd: http://forum.meleegaming.com/unban-essays/unban-essay-39470/

Or well don't read the 3rd as that is this thread.. xD

But anyways you can see on the 2nd thread (if I remember correctly) that I've posted all the messages that were sent between us. This guy didn't give us his "rest of the sent pms" even though he was able to do it.

[Wiltzu]

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So you want to say that only one message i sent you was: dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold?
and then you gone to Meow?

I'm not gonna even answer to that. Go couple pages back and see meow's post, he tells how this thing went.

[Leshma]

I see. Keep him banned if you ask me.

He's either dumbass or carefully planned the whole thing. In both cases he got no compassion from me.

Also Vibe is right, multiaccounting alone is enough to justify permaban.

[Leshma]

Also,

dude, whatever your name is. I understand what you're trying to achieve but you've picked wrong targets. Scamming poor souls like Wiltzu will not get you closer to your goal anytime soon. You should learn some hacking skills or contact Grey_Lorn about it and hack into mine account

[Equello]

I see. Keep him banned if you ask me.
He's either dumbass or carefully planned the whole thing. In both cases he got no compassion from me.
Also Vibe is right, multiaccounting alone is enough to justify permaban.

You dont even imagine how feels the guy, who wasnt going to scam, when you judge him like it happened in broad daylight.
I dont ask to believe me, but why you use to read only prosecutors posts?  Please try to get all the facts together and see, that all this story is strange.
Iam not dumbass and i didnt carefully plann the whole thing. Iam an ordinary player like you.
Admins, please look at all my previous trades. I had deal almost every day and was there something about scam? Look at trades i made last week. My warhammer was on market for about 2 weeks, nobody need it.. and i decided to sell it this way. Why is it weird for you?

As you see, english isnt my native language, maybe thats a reason why i cant make you trust me a bit.. I understand what was wrong in my previos posts, but i dont understand what i do wrong now and you still dont want listen to me

I would not sit on forum for whole last week, i would not debase myself proving something, if there was no truth for my path.
There was nothing in my life, that i tried to prove like grim death. This is the first time ever. And lies is not what i want to imbue.

[Leshma]

Iam an ordinary player like you.

You might be like me but in that case neither of us are what you call ordinary.

[sF_Guardian]

You dont even imagine how feels the guy, who wasnt going to scam, when you judge him like it happened in broad daylight.
I dont ask to believe me, but why you use to read only prosecutors posts?  Please try to get all the facts together and see, that all this story is strange.
Iam not dumbass and i didnt carefully plann the whole thing. Iam an ordinary player like you.
Admins, please look at all my previous trades. I had deal almost every day and was there something about scam? Look at trades i made last week. My warhammer was on market for about 2 weeks, nobody need it.. and i decided to sell it this way. Why is it weird for you?

As you see, english isnt my native language, maybe thats a reason why i cant make you trust me a bit.. I understand what was wrong in my previos posts, but i dont understand what i do wrong now and you still dont want listen to me

The reason why noone trusts you anymore are all that previous lies, it`s like in RL, if
you tell too much BS noone will ever listen to you again.
If you did nothing wrong you should have told the truth right away, not come
with some sort of "truth" after pages of bullshit.

And why don`t you tell us the message you sent to Wiltzu, I mean if
you remember that well you sent him one before, why don`t you tell
us the content?

Honestly, this seems so fucked up, feel sorry for
you, if you are guilty (cuz how dumb you would be)
and if you are not guilty cuz you will have to hide
under strange nicks all the rest of your cRPG time.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

You ask why people don't trust you?
Ever heard that one story about some guy who screamed that a wolf was going to eat his sheep (sheep are weak, goats rule) to pull a prank on some villagers, then he does it again, they believe him, then, a wolf comes by and eats all his sheep (Goats could kill wolves any day) and none of the villagers would do shit 'cause he'd tried to trick 'em way to many times and they didn't believe him.
Either way you've multiaccounted (worth a permaban), most likely tried to scam (worth a permaban), and you've lied about the entire thing a series of times (making sure no one would ever believe you).

[Equello]

And why don`t you tell us the message you sent to Wiltzu, I mean if
you remember that well you sent him one before, why don`t you tell
us the content?

I said about its content in my first essay. I asked Wiltzu not to think that i trick him and dont make ban request..

You ask why people don't trust you?
Ever heard that one story about some guy who screamed that a wolf was going to eat his sheep (sheep are weak, goats rule) to pull a prank on some villagers, then he does it again, they believe him, then, a wolf comes by and eats all his sheep (Goats could kill wolves any day) and none of the villagers would do shit 'cause he'd tried to trick 'em way to many times and they didn't believe him.
Either way you've multiaccounted (worth a permaban), most likely tried to scam (worth a permaban), and you've lied about the entire thing a series of times (making sure no one would ever believe you).

Now i truely repent of my lie, but in fact i gave quit justified reasons of my lies.
I know it cant acquit me, but you can at least try to understand behaviour of a guy, who never got in such troubles before.
I was confused and in my opinion truth looked rather stupid.
I said to Wiltzu this story, because didnt have nothing better to say. I didnt expect that my lies will tern to this..

Edit:I already post info about this accounts. They really was designed for other people. Hope devs can see it.

[sF_Guardian]

I said about its content in my first essay. I asked Wiltzu not to think that i trick him and dont make ban request..Now i truely repent of my lie, but in fact i gave quit justified reasons of my lies.
I know it cant acquit me, but you can at least try to understand behaviour of a guy, who never got in such troubles before.
I was confused and in my opinion truth looked rather stupid.
I said to Wiltzu this story, because didnt have nothing better in my mind. I didnt expect that my lies will tern to this..

Well, hope you`ve learn`t the lesson.

[Tibe]

May this be one of the most complex ban discussions ever, that really doesnt need any discussion at all? Basically give all looms back to their owners and ban the guy for life. He still admitted to multiaccounting. He wasnt just doubleaccounting he was TRIPLEACCOUNTING!!!!!! Why would Wiltzu lie about the PMs, he has nothing to gain from it.

Than Mr. X, you speak this wierdass crap how you were scared of getting infamy on forums and how you can get him his beloved shield in 2 weeks. Every normal person would have given Wiltzu his sword back and told him let him hold on to it till  you can get him the shield you promised. Not hold the sword for 2 weeks on you chars and make him hope for the best.

Just ban him for life already. No need to loose sleep over this Meow and reading his long posts. Its pretty clear as time passes he just keeps google translating for more lies. I bet you got more important things to do anyway. Like read "nerf archery and cavalry" Pms  .