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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2012, 02:47:59 am »
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edit:: nvm, i see your point  :idea:
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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2012, 03:10:39 am »
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2h stab is like 3 times harder to chamber compared to polearm stab - just saying^^

idk why 2h stab animation was changed at all, 2h and polearm were both affected by turning limit + polearm by removal of polestun, but only 2h got compensated by imba stab..  :rolleyes:

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2012, 03:16:29 am »
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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2012, 03:32:31 am »
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S-key and long weapons..

Just something I've been complaining about since forever.. Long weapons are generally undervalued in the balance-formulas. Regardless of my katana lobbying!

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2012, 07:17:00 am »
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The only problem with 2h thrust is that slow weapons cannot capitalize on the stun thrust. You want to have a Longsword or something to hit them during stun thrust. :(
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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2012, 09:01:06 am »
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I used to hate it, but nowadays i just chamberblock 2h thrusts, they're so easy... :)

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2012, 03:19:46 pm »
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I used to hate it, but nowadays i just chamberblock 2h thrusts, they're so easy... :)
I always used to do that, but it hits so weird now, either a bit early or a bit late. It's such a gamble if the chamber is going to work and even then they can block my overheads most of the time. The visual cue used to be correct. Just make sure your chamber meets the incoming blade, but that doesn't work at all anymore.

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2012, 03:20:57 pm »
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Dunno, i rarely have any problems with this. HBS also hits them every time without giving them a chance of blocking.

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2012, 03:51:47 pm »
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I as well, am a 2H Hero. I don't stab as often as others, but I STRONGLY agree with the nerf of the OP 2h stab. IMHO it's too fast and the animation doesn't represent the actually location of the weapon.

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2012, 11:56:00 pm »
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make all 2h sword stabs polearm mode, or make them like actual lunges that stun you if they fail.

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2012, 03:04:00 pm »
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2h stab is by far the most ugly (ugly as in not realistic, looks like some kind of anime move that only people with super human strength could pull off effectively) animation in all of warband, and is almost used more than a 1h uses their left swing.
the worst thing about the 2h stab is out ranging/out speeding spears/lances

Would be great to get an animation for 2h stabbing that actually made sense and didn't allow great sword users to kill cav ezpz or made the pole arm stab animations seem way more appealing than using the ez 2h stab.

(Who needs a long spear when you can use a GS, stab for support, and you got 4 directional attack for when you get singled out. + crazy speed, + crazy damage on all attack directions it's silliness that this hasn't really been dealt with.)
Why are the german/danish/longswords so much more popular than the flamberge?


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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2012, 03:07:38 pm »
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2h stab is by far the most ugly (ugly as in not realistic, looks like some kind of anime move that only people with super human strength could pull off effectively) animation in all of warband, and is almost used more than a 1h uses their left swing.
the worst thing about the 2h stab is out ranging/out speeding spears/lances

Would be great to get an animation for 2h stabbing that actually made sense and didn't allow great sword users to kill cav ezpz or made the pole arm stab animations seem way more appealing than using the ez 2h stab.

(Who needs a long spear when you can use a GS, stab for support, and you got 4 directional attack for when you get singled out. + crazy speed, + crazy damage on all attack directions it's silliness that this hasn't really been dealt with.)
Why are the german/danish/longswords so much more popular than the flamberge?


Becuase the Flamberge is a worse yet more expensive version of the Great Long Bardiche?

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2012, 07:40:48 pm »
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katana users posting to nerf 2hand stab why i never
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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2012, 07:52:15 pm »
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2h stab is by far the most ugly (ugly as in not realistic, looks like some kind of anime move that only people with super human strength could pull off effectively) animation in all of warband, and is almost used more than a 1h uses their left swing.
the worst thing about the 2h stab is out ranging/out speeding spears/lances

Would be great to get an animation for 2h stabbing that actually made sense and didn't allow great sword users to kill cav ezpz or made the pole arm stab animations seem way more appealing than using the ez 2h stab.

(Who needs a long spear when you can use a GS, stab for support, and you got 4 directional attack for when you get singled out. + crazy speed, + crazy damage on all attack directions it's silliness that this hasn't really been dealt with.)
Why are the german/danish/longswords so much more popular than the flamberge?
He's right at every single point though.

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Re: 2h stab madness
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2012, 08:22:25 pm »
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I find 2h stab one of the easiest things to block. People who have have problems with it are too eager to chamber or go for next attack or outrange it. Funny thing is that there is thrust stun which can give you free hit and one of my favourite tactics are running little back and going in when the animation is at its end causing nice glance and free hit. When I wasn't entirely used to stabs length I just held my downblock till enemy striked and I hear clink or changed attack direction. Also chambering 2h stab is relatively easy like all stabs.
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