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Re: Cmpx, you know why I am asking for it. Come here and see my suggestion.
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2011, 11:06:49 am »
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OK, no xbow buffs...

HOWEVER, personally, I think that there has to be one buff for both archers and crossbowmen - more ammunition/stack. If someone is willing to use Sniper crossbow as a DEDICATED crossbowman, he can really easily run out of ammo. 175 wpf and I ran out of ammo during 1 4minutes round, what then should I do without good melee weapon and shield?

Pick them up from the ground :P

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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2011, 11:12:16 am »
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There will be a few 1 slot 2h weapons and polearms. The spiked mace is an example for that, the spear and shortened spear are for polearms. I hope to expand the 1 slot selection sometime but for that we need models. In my opinion non-hammer 2h handed weapons with a reach of 70-90 are perfect for the 1 slot thingy and polearms with about 100-130 reach.

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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2011, 11:58:07 am »
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The idea of more slots for certain weapons is ingenious - I believe it will add A LOT to variety of the game, we will see more combinations of various weapons and less ranged spam (especially long distance spam). My archer Beau with warbow fully approves! (i take 1h weapon since beginning anyways and finally i will learn at what range it makes sense to shoot :o)

btw changing your heirlooms should be a must after the patch
« Last Edit: April 13, 2011, 12:00:11 pm by Beauchamp »
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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2011, 11:59:40 am »
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Yeah, now I see the point of this next patch.

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2011, 12:11:36 pm »
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I believe it will add A LOT to variety of the game, we will see more combinations of various weapons

How come? What you will see is 1h+shield and 2H only/mostly. It does not adding variety, on the contrary, it is for melee clash battle lovers... It is not good at all.
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« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2011, 12:44:46 pm »
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at first I was like "what is this what why would no I don't get what are you doing is this a troll"
But now I am like "Well, there better be an heirloom & character stat re-allocation on such a huge game impacting patch."
So far I'm Ok with all of what I hear. Would love to see some preliminary patch notes, even if they are not final.
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« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2011, 12:48:43 pm »
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dude they will just be dicks and take 90% of your heirlooms and let you respect the 1 u have left... :(

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« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2011, 12:50:28 pm »
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« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2011, 01:11:44 pm »
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you should publish expected changes - list of weapons with slot number and sheat option before coding it so you give players some 24hours for discussion.
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« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2011, 01:14:19 pm »
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How come? What you will see is 1h+shield and 2H only/mostly. It does not adding variety, on the contrary, it is for melee clash battle lovers... It is not good at all.

you will see all kinds of xbows, all kinds of bows... (i'd make strong bow 2 slots too - even now some people prefer it over warbow). there will be way more pure 1handers. melee hybrids won't be to affected. there will be less long distance ranged spam. a lot of people without shields or with shields but stronger weapons. people with strong shields (huscarl) will not be able to have 1h + anticav weapon... i like it.
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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2011, 01:33:37 pm »
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~In regards to Heirloom re-allocation. The point presented against it being = "People who heirloomed over powered weapon should be punished."
Thought this needed to be in this thread, too.

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Speed bump mentality is not how you do anything, let alone something with the purpose of being fun.
"To prevent a handful of people from having a little more, we make sure EVERYONE has less."
Hope that works out for you. And no, I am not one of the abusers of some OP weapon like a barmace.

Also, the whole point of balance is to eliminate "the next Uber cool weapon".
Don't punish everyone because of a few.
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« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2011, 01:42:30 pm »
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you should publish expected changes - list of weapons with slot number and sheat option before coding it so you give players some 24hours for discussion.

We can't publish expected changes, simply because we don't have a finished list yet. But apparently that doesn't stop people from making things up and whining about them.

For those saying that this is just meant to remediate the failure of upkeep: I have no idea what you're talking about. Upkeep was meant to make mid-tier weapons and especially mid-tier armor more attractive, and it succeeded at that. This change tackles a different problem ("jack of all trades, master of all" hybrids) and is by no means replacing upkeep.

PS: if you're trying to influence the dev team's opinions, you might want to try with constructive criticism instead of whine. The latter just doesn't work.

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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2011, 01:44:16 pm »
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What would a "no-sheath" mean?

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« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2011, 01:47:15 pm »
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If you switch weapons or try to sheath weapon that is "no-sheath" you will drop it on the ground.

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« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2011, 01:48:31 pm »
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If you switch weapons or try to sheath weapon that is "no-sheath" you will drop it on the ground.

Ah, nice. I guess that could work with some weapons.