Cmpx, you know why I am asking for it. Come here and see my suggestion.

[chadz]

I hardly know anything about those new item modes, so as an outsider I can say: Awesome, finally some gameplay changes. Adds more depth to the game. Can't wait to test it out.

[Dravic]

Don't troll. Cmpx said that on IRC, it must be true. You may don't know what exactly will this patch bring, but I am sure you knew cmpx is working on a patch. He is your right hand...

[Gnjus]

Don't troll.

 

[Erasmas]

All 2H will be 2 slots (even 1h/2h ones like Longsword), Flamberge will be 3 slots. Same for polearms, all at least 2 slots, longer ones 3 slots.

Aha, so effectively you cannot carry 1h+shield and a decent xbow, and you cannot  carry ANY 2h and a decent xbow. Carrying sniper/heavy xbow without any melee is suicidal. Aaaah, just remove them from the game, it is simpler.

I hardly know anything about those new item modes, so as an outsider I can say: Awesome, finally some gameplay changes. Adds more depth to the game. Can't wait to test it out.

I dare say it does not bring more depth to the game. It makes it more shallow.....

[chadz]

Don't troll. Cmpx said that on IRC, it must be true. You may don't know what exactly will this patch bring, but I am sure you knew cmpx is working on a patch. He is your right hand...

You managed to confuse me. All you said is true. All i can add is

...so?

[Erasmas]

You managed to confuse me. All you said is true. All i can add is

...so?

Now, that's trolling    chadz, you are the first pilot in this plane, just think the changes over, ok?

[BD_Guard_Bane]

Aha, so effectively you cannot carry 1h+shield and a decent xbow, and you cannot  carry ANY 2h and a decent xbow. Carrying sniper/heavy xbow without any melee is suicidal.

So use a 1hander?

[Erasmas]

So use a 1hander?

Without shield, against twohanders and onehanders with shield. Brilliant idea. C'mon....

[BD_Guard_Bane]

Without shield, against twohanders and onehanders with shield. Brilliant idea. C'mon....

Well, you wouldn't have the reach I guess, and you would have to manual block (like 2handers do). And you'll be more vulnerable to stuns.

But on the plus side, you'll look really cool.

[Erasmas]

Well, you wouldn't have the reach I guess, and you would have to manual block (like 2handers do). And you'll be more vulnerable to stuns.

But on the plus side, you'll look really cool.

Like "wow, you died in so cool and picturesque way I did make a screenshot"? 

[Vibe]

Without shield, against twohanders and onehanders with shield. Brilliant idea. C'mon....

That is the cost if you want to keep one shotting people with sniper xbows.
Maybe take a weaker xbow and a shield then?

[Dravic]

Erasmas means that a lot of shield+1h + siege xbow can't actually manual block. I think he is one of them.

Don't nerf Erasmas!

Anyway, we will see what will happen. Won't we?

EDIT

Oh, ONESHOTTING PEOPLE? When? Prepatch? Wake up, that dream is not true.

yeah, 1shot peasants and agi stackers when their lvl is <20. Because when such agi stacker hit some athletics, running back saves your life vs sniper xbow.

[chadz]

chadz, you are the first pilot in this plane, just think the changes over, ok?

I thought people know by now that I know jack shit about item balance, fighting gamebalance, etc. I'm probably one of the worst players around, I know nothing about damage calculation or the impact of AGI on the swing speed. I don't really care, either. If you ask me to buff or nerf item xyz, I probably wouldn't even know that this item exists. All items I do know are those in my inventory.

That's why I have a team that does item balances. And I trust them. And all I'm saying is that I like the upcoming change from what I've heard. Not more. Not less.

[Erasmas]

Erasmas means that a lot of shield+1h + siege xbow can't actually manual block. I think he is one of them.

Don't nerf Erasmas!

+1 to that, it is true. There is a reason why I use shield. I can learn the manual block, see you in a couple of months   In more serious note - "Do not nerf casual players" is more suitable.

And all I'm saying is that I like the upcoming change from what I've heard. Not more. Not less.

I usually trust your judgments.  But in this one I am a little worried about the overall game effects...

[Dravic]

OK, no xbow buffs...

HOWEVER, personally, I think that there has to be one buff for both archers and crossbowmen - more ammunition/stack. If someone is willing to use Sniper crossbow as a DEDICATED crossbowman, he can really easily run out of ammo. 175 wpf and I ran out of ammo during 1 4minutes round, what then should I do without good melee weapon and shield?