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Re: Cmpx, you know why I am asking for it. Come here and see my suggestion.
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2011, 08:30:52 am »
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Hmm, 2 slots? I guess there is no reason to use the Warbow at all now, and just use the Strongbow from now on, what a shame.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2011, 08:34:35 am »
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Hmm, 2 slots? I guess there is no reason to use the Warbow at all now, and just use the Strongbow from now on, what a shame.

I dont see it as that much of a problem, if they dont want archers to have a melee weapon at all then i guess they will just start running all around the map or camp unreachable places even more than now.

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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2011, 08:36:53 am »
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How many archers in singleplayer do you see wielding 2H or Sword&Board?

Use 1H.

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 08:38:09 am »
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http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3911.msg70375.html#msg70375
aahh a censored thingy. Not sure if that is clever or an oversight.

Wonder if this will screw my pure polearm build of glaive + elegant poleaxe.
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2011, 08:44:03 am »
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How many archers in singleplayer do you see wielding 2H or Sword&Board?

Use 1H.

That does nothing to fix the problem that my archer uses a heir loomed warbow, regardless of if I use a 1Her or a 2Her, I still lack the slots to use it, seeing as using just 1 quiver of arrows is insanity for an archer considering how fast you can chew through them.
1Her + Warbow = 1 free slot for ammo. *Shrugs*

In this case I will just pack the warbow, two quivers, and take out all of my PS and sink it into Athletics for future builds. Should induce a lot more rage for the enemy...
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2011, 08:57:35 am »
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That does nothing to fix the problem that my archer uses a heir loomed warbow, regardless of if I use a 1Her or a 2Her, I still lack the slots to use it, seeing as using just 1 quiver of arrows is insanity for an archer considering how fast you can chew through them.
1Her + Warbow = 1 free slot for ammo. *Shrugs*

In this case I will just pack the warbow, two quivers, and take out all of my PS and sink it into Athletics for future builds. Should induce a lot more rage for the enemy...

Well I guess you'll have to spend your arrows more wisely now :)
Tbh I agree with the change, there's too much ranged going on as it is, even more on NA servers than EU (atleast from what I experienced). Making the stronger bows have only 1 ammo quiver reduces the amount of ranged "spam".

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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2011, 08:58:05 am »
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How many archers in singleplayer do you see wielding 2H or Sword&Board?

Use 1H.

If thats what they were aiming for then making 2handed weapons take 2 slots would have done the trick, not the other way around.

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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2011, 09:03:32 am »
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So .. Sniper xbow + Great Sword = no more slots to get bolts ?

At least we'll get rid of the xbow/shielders

And I also support the throwing weapons taking 2 slots. I even wanted to be only 1 stack max but no one to second that idea :P (as if in real life people go in battle fields with 2 stacks of heavy throwing axes (8). Mini-Javs maybe , but 8 spears or 8 heavy axes .. bs ! :P

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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2011, 09:10:27 am »
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Well I guess you'll have to spend your arrows more wisely now :)
Tbh I agree with the change, there's too much ranged going on as it is, even more on NA servers than EU (atleast from what I experienced). Making the stronger bows have only 1 ammo quiver reduces the amount of ranged "spam".
ya lets buff melee more, it takes alot of arrows to drop one avg guy... u can bring like 19 into battle, if u miss a few times(you will) your boned, the long bow seems even more useless...

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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2011, 09:13:14 am »
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I don't see why everyone is freaking out. If you bring a Xbow into battle with bolts and a sword/1h why not just shoot off a couple rounds then pick up a fallen enemies polearm/2h when needed.
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2011, 09:14:44 am »
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So .. Sniper xbow + Great Sword = no more slots to get bolts ?

At least we'll get rid of the xbow/shielders

And I also support the throwing weapons taking 2 slots. I even wanted to be only 1 stack max but no one to second that idea :P (as if in real life people go in battle fields with 2 stacks of heavy throwing axes (8). Mini-Javs maybe , but 8 spears or 8 heavy axes .. bs ! :P
one stack max is a bone head idea,  if its 2 solts all u can bring is a max of 8 axes, or 4 lances...  and i bet no one will do that. i hope there cutting the cost of lances since there nerfing them o.o
it went form 8 to 4, shouldnt cost 550 to fix, i mean it already has the highest STR needed in the game

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2011, 09:18:16 am »
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If thats what they were aiming for then making 2handed weapons take 2 slots would have done the trick, not the other way around.

I think 2 handed weps are taking 2 slots next patch. Some even 3.

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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2011, 09:30:03 am »
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If anyone wants details, you can just pm me, because I hate when people have no idea what is going on with their builds.

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2011, 09:32:20 am »
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The slot change is about balancing hybrids, it's not a nerf. If you want to be a hybrid you simply have to choose between having the best ranged weapon+decent melee or having best melee+decent ranged. Or you find it fair that hybrids currently can have best melee+best ranged with no disadvantage at all?

I dare to disagree.

It is a nerf. And badly made IMHO. Yoy still can have sniper xbow + greatsword (only flamberge will take 2 slots afaik), but you can't have practice dagger + arena shield + heavy xbow. You can not have ANY shield with decent xbow. That makes decent xbows obsolete, due to the fact that xbowman/archers are not melee! They rarely use 2H weapon, and they need to divide wpf between 1h/2h and xbow, or in case of the archers, even powerdraw.

If you really want to limit the amount of weapons used at the same time, it may be easier to limit the total weight of weapons that can be carried. It is more natural and more intuitive.   

I dont see it as that much of a problem, if they dont want archers to have a melee weapon at all then i guess they will just start running all around the map or camp unreachable places even more than now.

+1 to that, Dear Sir. This will discourage any ranged to participate in melee fights.

Overall I think it will buff twohanders. Even more. Additionally, it means that upkeep did not do the job, obviously. Maybe it is to cheap to upkeep weapons now?
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2011, 10:21:48 am »
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I dare to disagree.

It is a nerf. And badly made IMHO. Yoy still can have sniper xbow + greatsword (only flamberge will take 2 slots afaik), but you can't have practice dagger + arena shield + heavy xbow. You can not have ANY shield with decent xbow. That makes decent xbows obsolete, due to the fact that xbowman/archers are not melee! They rarely use 2H weapon, and they need to divide wpf between 1h/2h and xbow, or in case of the archers, even powerdraw.

All 2H will be 2 slots (even 1h/2h ones like Longsword), Flamberge will be 3 slots. Same for polearms, all at least 2 slots, longer ones 3 slots.
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