The Greatest Unban Essay Ever Written (Expression, Freedom, Maturity, & Honesty)

[Boss]

My god, how much vanity can one person have?

It's coming outta his ass!!!

[OssumPawesome]

You've done it to the point where it isn't just trashtalking, it's a willful attempt to alienate entire servers of people. The rules have gray areas because we're still discovering and establishing the boundaries for them, it is an ongoing process. You, actually, are helping.

Canary even said that Spook is helping!
Free Spook!  Praise him!

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I didnt take the forums super serious AND supported spook - INCOMING CANARY MUTE OH GOD RUN

[Dexxtaa]

Canary even said that Spook is helping!
Free Spook!  Praise him!

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I didnt take the forums super serious AND supported spook - INCOMING CANARY MUTE OH GOD RUN

Why is this guy still here?

Why don't you stay in your own clan thread and leave the objective discussion to the adults. Even Spook is arguments that are at least backed up.

[SixThumbs]

Can we mute him on the forums too?

I also like the wording of this one: "Shouting profanities out of a car window in front of a person's home over an extended period of time". Makes it sound like it's alright to do it once as you're driving by.

Also, there's a difference between trying to jar someone from certain modal ways of thinking, creating new avenues for thought, and just being a douche-bag and pushing people's buttons

[OssumPawesome]

Calm down dex.  There have been quite a few irrelevant posts - one by yourself. or is "+1 because you called me beautiful" part of this objective discussion backed up by facts?

Just. Fuckin chill, admins.  It's ok to just take a breather from being tightasses all the damn time.

[Spook Island]

Which is how I have come to lead a successful clan by my criteria.

That not being the point, I have led teams. The difference being that you tended to be screaming over me, so I left you to your own devices with your freaking out at your/my team. I only took the time to address you directly when people began complaining of your frequent and abusive conduct.

I lead the team in conjunction with my clan. Unlike you, I do not scream profanities at my team in a vain effort to control their battlefield movements. You seem to link abuse and leadership together, which I can assure you is not the case, under any circumstances.

I can tell you that I make it a point not to lead a battle when you are on my team because it is frankly tiring to have to bash heads with you.

Your personal experience with me is extremely limited simply because I have chosen not to consort with you. I do not believe that you are the "leader" that you make yourself out to be simply because people do not listen to you. Perhaps you get a better response on the siege server.

Also if you want to reference people being "full of shit," make sure you read page 1, post #1.

Dex, I have never seen you lead one game in thousands and thousands of rounds and over 2.5+ years of playing. 
Even if I was "screaming over you," I still would have noticed you trying.  However, I've never ever seen it.

And yes, I am the leader I make myself out to be; whether you like it or not.  My ways have worked.  That's why I use them. 
Even people who don't like me are mature enough to admit that I know what I'm talking about and know what I'm doing.  You should put your pride aside and try joining them.

It really boils down to this question.

You have a tumor inside your brain that is going to kill you. 
The surgery itself is extremely dangerous. 

Do you pick the nice guy brain surgeon who isn't very good at his job?
Or do you pick the asshole, who is the best at what he does, and is going to get the job done even if he has to fray some nerves?

We all know what the clear and sane option is.
You can try to twist it around as much as you want.

We all know what option you would pick, even if you don't want to openly admit it.

[Tears of Destiny]

It really boils down to this question.

You have a tumor inside your brain that is going to kill you. 
The surgery itself is extremely dangerous. 

Do you pick the nice guy brain surgeon who isn't very good at his job?
Or do you pick the asshole, who is the best at what he does, and is going to get the job done even if he has to fray some nerves?

Is this the part where I point out that at least in America, doctors can be fired for the same behavior you exhibit? I should also point out that the rigorous trainings and standards, reviews and such means there are no practicing "brain surgeons" or any surgeon operating in America who is "not very good at his job."

I would be forced to choose the doctor who still has his license.

It boils down to you exhibiting behavior not condoned in a private establishment, and said private establishment throwing you out. What Canary said about the "Freedom of Speech and Disturbing the peace" still applies here. Society has never been very tolerant of anti-social behavior.

[Spook Island]

Is this the part where I point out that at least in America, doctors can be fired for the same behavior you exhibit? I should also point out that the rigorous trainings and standards, reviews and such means there are no practicing "brain surgeons" or any surgeon operating in America who is "not very good at his job."

I would be forced to choose the doctor who still has his license.

It boils down to you exhibiting behavior not condoned in a private establishment, and said private establishment throwing you out. What Canary said about the "Freedom of Speech and Disturbing the peace" still applies here. Society has never been very tolerant of anti-social behavior.

And you would die because you put your pride over reason and basic rationale.  That pretty much tells me and everybody else all they need to know.

There's plenty of people who display anti-social behavior.  Some are even admins.
You can't make a black and white argument with a grey area rulebook.

[Tears of Destiny]

And you would die because you put your pride over reason and basic rationale.  That pretty much tells me and everybody else all they need to know.

There's plenty of people who display anti-social behavior.  Some are even admins.
You can't make a black and white argument with a grey area rulebook.

No, I would possibly die because I'm forced by Federal law to choose the "nice guy" who is still allowed in the hospital over the "asshole" who is without an operating table. Though in real life, I would actually bother doing research and choose someone who is competent at their job AND has their job still due to not being fired (Because again, in real life a doctor WILL be fired in America if said doctor speaks to patients as you do to your team. period).

Your comparisons to real life are terrible.

For someone who prides himself at critical thinking your RL comparisons are completely unrealistic and borderline tangent.

Again, "freedom of speech" does not allow oneself to be a public disturbance as that is "disturbing the peace" or "being a public nuisance."

You can't make a black and white argument with a grey area rulebook.

Agreed, so stop making black and white comparisons.

[Spook Island]

No, I would possibly die because I'm forced by Federal law to choose the "nice guy" who is still allowed in the hospital over the "asshole" who is without an operating table. Though in real life, I would actually bother doing research and choose someone who is competent at their job AND has their job still due to not being fired (Because again, in real life a doctor WILL be fired in America if said doctor speaks to patients as you do to your team. period).

Your comparisons to real life are terrible.

For someone who prides himself at critical thinking your RL comparisons are completely unrealistic and borderline tangent.

Again, "freedom of speech" does not allow oneself to be a public disturbance as that is "disturbing the peace" or "being a public nuisance."
Agreed, so stop making black and white comparisons.

No, you would most certainly die despite how badly you may want to try to alter the question and circumstances to suit your position.  I didn't think I needed to so clearly spell it out for you but apparently I gave you a little too much credit.

I could rephrase to help you better understand it it, but you're just going to try dancing around it again in some really blatant and hackneyed attempt to drag me into some pseudo-intellectual argument so you can see how you measure up to me. 

It's the same shit you tried in my guild thread at the bottom of page 5 and on page 6.  It was just as transparent and boring then.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/faction-halls/groovy-ghoulies-%27i%27m-as-serious-as-cancer-when-i-say-rhythm-is-a-dancer-%27/60/

Remember, when you came into our (ghoulies) guild topic and tried to pick a fight with me, then blatantly admitted as much under the guise of simply trolling for some entertainment.

So I guess I just hung you with your  own argument and showed you to be a complete hypocrite. 

I guess we know where you measure up now, so why don't you spare me your petty bullshit and go try playing with someone else.


Oh, and by the way, I'm not sure if you're an admin or whatever, but I do know somebody with a formal title higher than that of a regular player probably shouldn't be representing themselves that way.

Don't bother trying to damage control or twisting my words around to stay in this "game" as you might consider it.  Frankly, I don't consider your mock arguments anything other than what they are; just a attempt to keep yourself busy and entertained by wasting the time of someone else that you consider a worthy foe.
Believe me, the feeling isn't mutual.

Now I'm going to go watch king of the hill while you attempt to pick up the pieces here.

I'll try to get back on later so I can address what Canary said.  Though I might wait till tomorrow since I do have work in the morning.
Stay tuned.

[Lemmy_Winks]

Spook it seems that your situation is indefensible and so you are trying to relate it to something completely different that is defensible and make the argument about that instead of the matter at hand. What kind of brain surgeon you would have do your surgery for you has nothing to do with this (and still if you look deeper into this all your saying is that you being a good leader in part due to your behavior makes it ok for you to break the rules and behave this way, and it doesn't). Yet again it reminds me of one of my favorite south park clips of all time, which parodies johnny cockrans use of a red herring to make the OJ Simpson trial (which was indefensible) about race and civil rights in order to win it.

 

[Tears of Destiny]

Oh, and by the way, I'm not sure if you're an admin or whatever, but I do know somebody with a formal title higher than that of a regular player probably shouldn't be representing themselves that way.

What in the world are you referencing here about "formal title?"  :

[Vibe]

What in the world are you referencing here about "formal title?"  :

He probably means your King title, melord.

[Tears of Destiny]

He probably means your King title, melord.

Then seeing as he is but a Baron, he should acknowledge that his exile is non-negotiable.

[Muki]

This thread seems to attract alot of famous/infamous posters.