The cav problem, Induced by GK

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

Hello all.

I will start by a short disclaimer stating that this is not a whine thread. It is purely here to point a problem that even a 7 years old kid could notice. I have to do this because sadly there are many arrogant people that, when we put them in front of a truth just go : "lol newb, stop QQ"

This isnt a recent problem, it was in game well before but it has got worse recently. what is it then?

Cav is stack in one team, and this is not just 5 more cav in one team. We are talking about 3 cav vs 25

Why is this so? Well i will first start by the fact that there are an important amount of them. Many of them are not pure pure cav because, let's face it, cav is the easiest hybrid class to build. for 5 skills in riding you can ride the destrier, the best all around horse, or an armored horse. those extra five point you didnt know what to do : "IF or shield?? meh...riding..."
There you go, you can be as effective as any other cav, zoom off!

now This problem is worsened By GK. Unlike all other clans that accept all classes, GK, accepts ONLY cav (except Leshma but he's special). This results in serious cav imbalance on the server when GK come online having 10 members ont the same side. Just raping everything there is and forcing the whole team just to camp a corner, how fun! It is really hard, whith the constant sound of hooves you have to look around like a nervous paranoid guy, and when you try to defend yourself theres is another one that rapes you making the whole argument "awareness bro" copmpletly useless and not thought through.

They cause serious imbalance.

Please tell meGK, how this can be amusing for you? you have NO, NOT AT ALL, ANY opposition in the enmy team. And when i read that you wish the return of old lance angle im confused! Why? just to rape infantry more? Because you must not be dueling much cav for the moment so i believe that is slightly hypocritical!

So what is to be done? you cant ignore there is a problem right? Do we have to have the server to force you to be spread across the teams? do we force you to have two banners?

[Hobb]

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

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[Moncho]

Hi, 

It's signed, 

I can only approved.

I know they want to play together, but being in the other team is no fun at all.
What can you do? Get a spear? WRONG, you get shot to pieces by their HAs.
hmmm lets thing, camp the corner, or a strategic place depending on the map? tried it tonight, with a few deserters, the french and some other people, oh wait, the flags just spawned in the other side of the map, oh well, lets try and go, yay the HAs and lancers are everywhere again...
More ideas? Shoot them? We dont have enough arrows to kill 15+ horses!

Yet again, this is just QQing after playing with very little fun for over an hour EU 1, had not been there long these last months...
Well, back to siege it is then...

[Miwiw]

Remove banner balance and include class balance instead.
Only solution.

You cant force GK to split in two. On other days there might be another clan winning a round after another.
You cant force them to not play cav either. That's not fair after all.

--> simple QQ thread. done.

[Nessaj]

Remove banner balance and include class balance instead.
Only solution.

You cant force GK to split in two. On other days there might be another clan winning a round after another.
You cant force them to not play cav either. That's not fair after all.

--> simple QQ thread. done.

Why would banner balance need to be removed? Simple class balance would still solve it, clans would STILL get split up as  is the case at the moment - except it doesn't account for classes.

Removing banner balance would demolish public play for all clans, and I think less of you as a person for suggesting it Miwiw!

[Miwiw]

Hm...
Rather meant that banner balance is never more important than class balance. Doesn't have to be removed, true.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

Remove banner balance and include class balance instead.
Only solution.

You cant force GK to split in two. On other days there might be another clan winning a round after another.
You cant force them to not play cav either. That's not fair after all.

--> simple QQ thread. done.

ho is this a simple QQ thread? so if there's a game breaking weapon/feature/bug/others we should shut and deal with it? great...

maybe some other clan can rape, but there is only one clan that stacks the same class on one side, and that is GK.

[Darkoveride]

thank you thank you , ill be signing autographs.

[un_rayo_de_tigre]

tl;dr

As far as I'm concerned, there are plenty of clans that steamroll in this exact situation, furthermore, occurrences where GK are 9 men strong on a server, at any given point, is like winning the lottery.

[BattalGazi]

I liked the paranoid part a lot, touching ...

[Chagan_Arslan]

Unlike all other clans that accept all classes, GK, accepts ONLY cav (except Leshma but he's special).

Honorary mention to Cavalieres ;] also we try to get C47 into GK but he keeps refusing

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

thank you thank you , ill be signing autographs.

You're like one of the 100 generic GKs no one knows who are.
EDIT:
Also, Lactose, try playing EU_4, you'll bitch about lack of bannerbalance but the only way of balancing cav amounts somewhat evenly would be removing bannerbalance/making it split the banner in two somewhat equally big parts if there are more than 5 guys on the same banner, now, because EU_4 ain't got no GK there are tons of archers, some days we got 12 out of 18 players being archers, either we have a shitload of GKs or we have a shitload of archers, and, balancing them evenly on both teams would still not change a lot, as there'd still be so many cav/archers that you'd die before reaching the enemy infantry most of the time unless you're a shielder, 'cause 9 out of ten times archers don't aim for cav unless the cav attack them, and 9 out of 10 cav prefers stabbing inf over stabbing archers, going hoplite is the only solution, or praying for a nerf that makes cav take damage once they're dehorsed, and remove kiting from archers, and make cav loud as shit.

[Idzo]

Lactose, I understand you.. But I don't have problems with GK's..

But also i think there is nothing to be done about it...
I don't want class balance because we all have clan and i want to play with my teammates

Guys/GK's are having fun, they have their clan and that's purpose of same.

Most of us play this because of awesome melee fighting system but yeah... there is something.. always..
Because of cav and archers mod is unplayable, that's why I switched from 2h/poles to hoplite. There are too much heroes are around who think they cant kill everyone alone..  With hoplite build i protected myself from arrows and from cav. Now i suck in dueling but i can take axe from time to time and have fun..
There is also big problem called teammates - they spawn and run straight and get couched from side in first 20 sec..
It might sound silly but somehow they are griefing (?) other teammates with their brainless actions...

Also, I would like advise guys to take hybrid build with throwing stuff, which is semi-ranged and also quite effective against cav and archers.

Hybrids, 18/18 builds ftw.

[Kerrigan]

Long time ago Lactose_the_Intolerant here,
he was hitchhikin' down a long and lonesome road.
All of a sudden, there shined a shiny thread... in the middle... of the forum.

And the thread said;
"Fuck this GK cav clan out of the world, or I'll GTX."

And he typed the first thing that came to his head,
Just so happened to be,
The Best Thread in the World, it was The Best Thread in the World.

Look into his eyes and it's easy to see
One and one make two, two and one make three,
It was destiny.
Once every hundred-thousand years or so,
When the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow
And the cav doth grow...

Needless to say, the forum was stunned.
Dramadrama went his whoopy tail,
And the forum was done.
They asked him "Be you a woman?"
And he said, "Nay. I am but raging."

Cav!
Ahhh, ahhh, ahhh-ah-ah,
Ohhh, whoah, ah-whoah-oh!