Turn rate nerf

[Peasant_Woman]

Better than a turnspeed nerf imo, would be some mechanic like 'dizzyness' where yes you can spin in circles as much as you want. Do it too much in too short a time and you lose balance and fall over.

[Piok]

Turn rate nerf:Anti piker feature that actually raise their number, epic fail

[Rantrex]

Well, it never was about the possible turn of these weapons, but DMG they deal.

1. Lolstab(2h) = 3/5 hp
2. Lolstab(long pole) = 1/2 - 3/4hp
3. Overhead(mauls in general) - 3/4hp (i suppose)

There are still a lot of ways to spin with thrust and deal real damage (sI love youtab?)

[San]

Only issue I have with overheads is active hitboxes after the weapon has already 'completed' its swing. It's annoying on both the giving and receiving end. An end to this would also hopefully end random bounces on the ground with overheads. Overheads didn't need any reduced turn speed.

For helicopter stabs, it would have been fine to restrict turning only in midair, since jumping is the only way they can get sizable distance.  Not sure what else people had issues with regarding turning stabs.

[Patoson]

I'm really dissapointed by the turn nerf, but im not sure if there was another possibility for the dev to nerf the lolstab without acting on the turn speed.

Well, like I've said many times in the past, I would agree with a replacement of the stab of the greatswords with that of polearms (and I am and will always be a two-hander).

In my opinion, stabbing with a Danish greatsword like it is now looks unreal. Even if it's our best (and quite easy) way of dealing with cavalry, it would make more sense to me that longswords could stab like they do now yet greatswords could only stab like the secondary mode.

This would make us two-handers learn how to deal with cavalry again, and I'm sure it would still be possible (in a different way), while, at the same time, giving an end to "lolstab".

Edit: now that I think about it, the same anger that produces lolstab to some people is what longspears (and other stabby polearms) give to me, so it would just be best to revert to how it used to be in the beginning. Afterall, it's just a matter of skill. LESS TALKIN', MORE RAIDIN'!!!

[Toodles]

As nice as it would be to tie speed reduction with weapon weight and / or length I'm not sure it would be possible. As a one hander I'll say this : stab sure, overhead - good god why?

[Vkvkvk]

My only complaint is instead of people spazzing around and spinning with overheads/stabs chambered, people just do their fancy spins on the sideswings so the game looks like absolute shit either way.

[Tzar]

I miss the old turn rates instead of the new ones simply because its too easy to go ballistic bezerk in large crowds with fx a morningstar an just spamming mindless left n right because people cant do a overhead on you 

Its fun when your the one doing it but its still annoying as hell when you watch your team mates or yourself get cut to peices trying to hit that one guy in the middle of the blob 

This game could use a good revert back to the faster paced action its become a block fest atm 

[Lt_Anders]

There's supposed to be a change based on the item(so like long poles have a nerf like now, where as 1h is more like it was before). I thought that that was  what they were going to eventually add.

[Angantyr]

Turn rate nerf is also an indirect buff to shielders as manual blockers struggle to get behind their shields with the limited turn ability, compared to before it's now more of a patience game as blows are exchanged.

[Nessaj]

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[Sarpton]

I actually really like the spin nerf for stabs,  but the over head one is just a touch too much.  Right now over heads are so rare that most of the time when I do one it not blocked and simply dodged.  As I do when someone does an overhead.  It's kind of laughable.    Sping nerf is cool overhead is too much.   But then again I don't wish a return to the days of having to block 2h swords twice because they could stab and drag that fucker all OVER the place before stabbing into your foot and doing full damage.

[Angantyr]

The main problem of that nerf is that it is almost impossible to fight a gank squad when you are heavily surrounded, old turning speed was very rewarding for people who had very good reflex.

Yes, it has had a dramatic effect in this area; if people are fast and proficient enough to fight off large groups by themselves why shouldn't they be allowed to, or at least why should they be severely handicapped while doing so, successes like these are a major quality of the game to many players.

[Jarlek]

Whenever I get frustrated because I can't turn my character as fast as I want to, I play some NW. After seeing all the dolphin jumps all over the place, cRPG starts looking way better again.

I also like how overheads are harder to do now. I still do them and have it easy enough to hit with them, but now people don't expect them so they more often mess up the block. Me like!

[TugBoat]

I think the problem was more pole stagger rather than the turn speed. Turn speed really gimps 1handers more than anything which need the most help honestly. If they would get rid of turn speed nerf or make it so that it applies only to certain weapons or weight or something it would be more balanced overall