Whack A$@ Zashi?

[Auphilia]

Figured I'd try this again...

Stats:

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Nordic Short Sword
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weight: 1
difficulty: 3
speed rating: 103
weapon length: 81
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
slots: 1

Cost: 2,334 gold

Wakizashi
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weight: 1
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 104
weapon length: 70
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
slots: 1

Cost: 7,554 gold

Wakizashi VS Nordic Short Sword:

Weight -  1 vs 1
Difficulty - 4 vs 3 ---- Nordic Short Sword has a lower difficulty requirement.
Speed - 104 vs 103 ---- Wakizashi has 1 more speed.
Length - 70 vs 81 ---- Nordic Short Sword has 11 more length.
Thrust - 21 vs 23 ---- Nordic Short Sword does 2 more pierce damage.
Swing - 28 vs 28
Slots - 1 vs 1
Cost - 7,554 vs 2,334 ---- Nordic Short Sword is cheaper by a total of 5,220 gold.

Wakizashi is over triple the cost of a sword that is better or equal to it in all stats with the exception of a single speed point.



This just seems like extreme anti-weaboo balancing. If you don't want the weaboo stuff, take it out. If you aren't going to take it out, then at least balance it fairly please, that is all I'm asking. 

[EDIT]: The only argument given to explain this extremely biased balancing is "style". Because of this, I have made a comparison to other items who are balanced based on style. Not a single one of them is anywhere near a 5k increase to price.

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Okay I'm tired of all the "style" bullshit arguments. We all know it is complete bullshit, and if you don't then your head is up your ass. If you honestly believe that style is suppose to increase an item's cost over 5k, then let us look at some of these other items who have their costs increased based on "style".

For example, the following armors all have exactly the same stats.
Stats:

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weight: 23.6
body armor: 55
leg armor: 19
difficulty: 14

Armors & Costs:

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Plate Armor - Price: 22,662 ---------- This armor is standard for top tier heavy knights.
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Blue Churburg Cuirass - Price: 23,097 ---------- This armor has added style suitable for a lord, and costs only an additional 435 gold.
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Red Churburg Cuirass - Price: 23,589 ---------- This armor has even more style to suit a prince, and only costs an additional 927 gold.
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Churburg Cuirass - Price: 24,066 ---------- This armor is the most stylish to suit a goddamn king, and only costs an additional 1404 gold.
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According to "style balance", all of these items should cost triple the previous.

That would look more like this:

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Plate Armor: 22,662 gold.
Blue Churburg Curiass: 67,986 gold. ----- If you want to be a lord, that is the price for style. 
Red Churburg Curiass: 203,958 gold. ----- If you want to be a prince, that is the price for style. 
Churburg Curiass: 611,874 gold. ----- If you want to be a king, that is the price for style. 

Obviously only a very few players would ever be able to afford playing a lord, prince, or king and still have fun with this game, which is why they aren't triple the cost based on "style". Neither should be the wakizashi. Period. How the hell does it costs less to look like a king than it does to look like a common samurai or ninja? That is just complete bullshit lol.

[HardRice]

Ass.

Just type ass goddammit.

[Miwiw]

Don't hate on Nordmen equip! Only difference is nearly 400 upkeep. You cannot change the length if the model is that short, what do you expect?

[Auphilia]

I expect the difference not to be +400 upkeep for a sword that is clearly worse? 

[Miwiw]

Well, since when did upkeep actually really matter though. That's why you see most people using the best 1h swords anyway, that is 300+ upkeep. I always used the Nordic Short Sword though, didnt mind the low upkeep but the lower range in comparison to Nordic War Sword for example.

You get 1 speed for 2 pierce dmg (thrust!), which is a nice trade. There's nothing to do about range, though you are of course welcome to make a new model that looks nice.

By the way, do you know how amazing high speed and short range is in siege? I do, and loved that "weaboo" sword.

Higher upkeep simply has the reason for its style. You like it? Pay for it.

[Casimir]

my 1h waki alt does alright.

[TugBoat]

You all are missing the point and putting up straw man arguments.

"It's only _______ more expensive"

and

"I can still do well with it"

are pointless arguments.

The fact of the matter is that a sword is clearly a better choice, and is also cheaper. If a sword is more expensive, its stats should be reflexive of the cost increase. We're not asking for the model to be changed so it has greater length. If a weapon is shorter but more expensive, perhaps the damage or speed needs to be buffed to match? A cheaper sword is literally better in all aspects. This should be adjusted or the sword should be removed. There is no point in having it in the game if it serves no purpose

[Auphilia]

I'm not saying it is a bad weapon, well never mind, it is a bad weapon...but the point is that there is no reason for it to cost triple the price of a sword that is clearly better.

As for your logic about "style" then why doesn't the long dagger, scottish sword, italian falchion, etc, cost more? Those are more stylish than their counterparts. Triple the price because of style? LOL. Why not triple the price of the nodachi and katana as well? Since they are so stylish.

I just don't see how the wakizashi is fairly balanced, even if you did want to make it more expensive for "style" it shouldn't be triple the price of its alternatives.

[TurmoilTom]

This thread again? I'll just go ahead and get it all over with. Prepare your minds to be blown.

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Just because it's Japanese doesn't mean it has to be almost as useless as the Sumpter and super expensive.

A simple fix would be to either make the Waki one zero slot or buff its damage and speed, but we all know it's not going to happen because the anti-jap majority of whiners would get in a fit if they saw it being utilized effectively in-game.

/Thread.

[Nehvar]

I'm not a huge fan of the weaboo gear but the wakazashi, as it is now, is a joke.  Plus one for fixing/changing it from me.

[Vibe]

Lol nice find, definitely needs some tweaking or reduced cost.

[Ptolemy]

Reduce the upkeep on the waki and then everyone is happy. For the record, the difference between 103 and 104 speed is nothing.

Especially me, since I'll be able to use it on my archer alt again - costs too much to use Yumi, Tatars and a Wakisashi.

This anti-Japanese bias really has to stop.

[Wiltzu]

Well why do you Japanese need so much fancy stuff into a sword =/ Of course it's gonna cost more!

[ArysOakheart]

He is upset the item he uses for aesthetic purposes costs him so much. 

[dodnet]

Nordic Short Sword looks like boring shit, Wakizashi looks great. You have to pay for style!