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Im sure this has been brought up....
« on: August 22, 2012, 05:52:56 pm »
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After searching through the forums i have seen this brought up many times..... but why it has not been implemented or atleast played with is somewhat disappointing. Or if it has let me know please :)

Talking with people and my clan members over the last 2 months we have been playing there seems to be a major element missing to the system. Over looked, not feasible, or whatever the case is im unsure.... but why has stamina been dismissed so easily?

Seems that it would correct the spamming problem, constant jumpers, and just over all nonsense of someone running around in full plate being able to swing with no consequence. 

Of course you then ask, what stats would effect it ect. Thats easy.... both str and agil would both play a factor....

So is it more of people want to be able to just constantly spam? Or the devs dont want to work on it?

It just seems someone swinging a great maul 45 over head strikes in a row should be exausted, or whatever 2h weapon of choice it. There def should be some sort of downfall to just constantly swinging and jumping.
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 06:23:50 pm »
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but why has stamina been dismissed so easily?
Because nobody (or most people) don't want a slower game. Adding stamina will not make the game more Fun.
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 06:24:41 pm »
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Stamina would give melee much greater depth and interest which some claim to want. Yet I doubt they really do. They don't want to have to THINK when they play. They want it to be purely about mouse/keyboard skills and not also brain skills.

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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2012, 06:27:45 pm »
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Stamina would give melee much greater depth and interest which some claim to want. Yet I doubt they really do. They don't want to have to THINK when they play. They want it to be purely about mouse/keyboard skills and not also brain skills.

Oh look you just killed one guy but you had to use your stamina because he is good. Now another guy runs up and you die because you were too tired to fight. Sucks to be you, should have found a gatorade in the forest to recharge those electrolytes.

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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 06:31:44 pm »
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Hiding behind a wall, waiting for my stamina to regenerate sounds terribly boring.

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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 06:48:30 pm »
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and people being able to spam a 20lb sword indefinably is just as boring...... and the regen does not have to be super slow..... but something to factor in the full plate/2h swinging wildly and not blocking or the jumping pike spammers...... makes no sense to be able to do shit like that. And yes i do want it to be added.... i have played plenty of games that use that type of mechanic.... 
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 06:49:55 pm »
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Because nobody (or most people) don't want a slower game. Adding stamina will not make the game more Fun.

I dont think it really has to do with that all.... they enjoy being able to abuse game mechanics is more on point.
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 07:33:52 pm »
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If you're being spammed to death, (which according to you is a big problem) you really just need to get better.

With weapon speed and attack timings in this game it's impossible to spam someone unless they are just not good.

Stamina would slow this game down to a frustrating crawl. Not to mention the nightmare it would be to balance.
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 07:38:24 pm »
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The fuck is your problem with jumping guys? Jumping in battle is hard to utilize and extremely risky as if you fuck it up you'll get 1hit due to speed bonus, besides, ranged could easily kill jumpers due to the following stun.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 07:40:12 pm »
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Battles and even sieges last what, 7 minutes max? You will not tire noticably in 7 minutes, at least not to the point of being so exhausted you can't even swing a sword or jump...
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 08:11:32 pm »
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The problem with jumping guys???? LOL its unrealistic is why its a problem.... Jump around in a plate suite and see how many times you could do it.... same with swinging a wep the way people do.... go to the fair and see how many times you can swing that mallet to ding the buzzer etc.... 100% fail chance your gunna do it for 7 mins at full power every swing. From a realistic stand point its insane to think someone in plate could swing anything as fast as a naked. But its W/E.... guess we are not shooting for realistic from any stand point other than looks lol
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 08:15:23 pm »
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If you're being spammed to death, (which according to you is a big problem) you really just need to get better.

With weapon speed and attack timings in this game it's impossible to spam someone unless they are just not good.

Stamina would slow this game down to a frustrating crawl. Not to mention the nightmare it would be to balance.

Im not being spammed to death.... its just annoying to have to defend against something that doesnt make sense physically or realistically.
It wouldnt be hard to balance at all either.... im not sure what you think would have to happen but... 
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 08:17:16 pm »
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The problem with jumping guys???? LOL its unrealistic is why its a problem.... Jump around in a plate suite and see how many times you could do it.... same with swinging a wep the way people do.... go to the fair and see how many times you can swing that mallet to ding the buzzer etc.... 100% fail chance your gunna do it for 7 mins at full power every swing. From a realistic stand point its insane to think someone in plate could swing anything as fast as a naked. But its W/E.... guess we are not shooting for realistic from any stand point other than looks lol
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 08:20:36 pm »
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Yea i know what that forum is thanks.
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Re: Im sure this has been brought up....
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 08:42:47 pm »
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I think the benefit of stamina is that it would allow people to choose between being a berserker-type that can be super-effective in short bursts, versus more of an endurance champ that wins through attrition. Just adds another layer of depth as opposed to just str vs agility, and opens up entire new team play tactics (berserkers charge in first as shock troops, then the disciplined warriors move in to clean up).