Knockdown

[Vkvkvk]

I always have the idea that I get knocked down by about 1/3rd of the swings of 1h maces. Probably I mostly forget about it when I don't get knocked down, but they knock down to such an extent that I've been thinking of switching to one.

What I hate about knockdown is the hit-knockdown-hit-kick-hit combo that increasingly more people use. That gives them 3 hits for the price of 1. Getting hit the first time is your fault, but the other two are completely out of your control. 2 hits for the price of 1, okay, but 3 is crazy and almost always a sure kill.

I remember once making a 9/27 shielder with a flanged mace and I'd use this exact combo.

There's this one time where my third hit knocked the guy down so I just did the kick combo again and he got knocked down AGAIN on the third hit.

The poor guy went from 100% to 0% in about 9 hits but he was on the ground for the entire 9 hits.

[oprah_winfrey]

The only time that knockdown is really annoying is when it is from the 0 slot hammer. I have/have heard much rage over vent/ts when it happens.

[justme]

i was knocked down while i was standing up from knockdown. nuff said

[Kelugarn]

.......

I must be doing mad damage, or be lucky as hell, because with a 1.2 weight quarterstaff I get knockdown about 20% of all my hits. Even at 4 PS (22 blunt swing, 24 blunt thrust +3 Qstaff) I score knockdowns very frequently.

[Osiris]

try that fking mace that xbow users have it knockdowns all the damn time

[Leshma]

When I was 36/3 peasant using iron staff, knockdown rate was above 50% that's for sure. Maybe even 70%. Should be fixed at 20% imo.

[Zerran]

(rand(0.0, 1.0) < min(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * min((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)

Certainly feels more like

(rand(0.0, 1.0) < max(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * max((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)

 

I would really like to see someone actually do a 100-200 hit test for knockdown. It sure as hell feels like it happens more often than that formula would indicate.

[Dach]

It sure as hell feels like it happens more often than that formula would indicate.

"when it happen to youself, it's always too often"

 

[dreadnok]

its all bullshit theres no formulas. you can do all the horse shit testing you want. i barely knock anyone down as a str based palyer. and some bundle of sticks agi guy with a flanged mace can knock you down 3 in a row

[Gurnisson]

When you don't use a knockdown weapon you notice all the times you get knocked down yourself. When you use a knockdown weapon you notice all the times you don't knockdown an enemy.

I've been experiencing both sides quite a bit and it seems quite balanced to me. Not too many times, not too few. Balances out the bad sides of the knockdown weapons quite nicely.

[darmaster]

I always have the idea that I get knocked down by about 1/3rd of the swings of 1h maces. Probably I mostly forget about it when I don't get knocked down, but they knock down to such an extent that I've been thinking of switching to one.

What I hate about knockdown is the hit-knockdown-hit-kick-hit combo that increasingly more people use. That gives them 3 hits for the price of 1. Getting hit the first time is your fault, but the other two are completely out of your control. 2 hits for the price of 1, okay, but 3 is crazy and almost always a sure kill.

yes this sucks

[Piok]

My 24/21 main has knockdown rate between 40-50% with longhaftedspikemace

[sF_Guardian]

My 24/21 main has knockdown rate between 40-50% with longhaftedspikemace

45% is max

[Jarlek]

(rand(0.0, 1.0) < min(item_weight * 0.33, 2.0) * min((raw_damage - 20.0) * 0.5, 10.0) * 0.015)

[genric]

I feel awful when I charge a crossbow man and get two hits in and before I can finish him he pulls his mace/morningstar/device to make me weight 2 tons and hits me once throwing me immediately to the ground where I stay for the remainder of the time he wails on me till I eventually cave into the earth itself and die in the center. I feel unlucky in that every fight with a weapon with knockdown it does knock me down, twice.