Buff plate [Added poll!]

[Fartface]

Both were a delayed right swing to zeh face

[Latvian]

obviously rejected by the nords 

[Smoothrich]

a buff heavy armor thread, lmao

buff cav, the rus bow, danish greatswords and glaives while you're at it

[Latvian]

no, just heavy armor should have better protection  thats it.

[To Kill A Dead Horse]

a buff heavy armor thread, lmao

buff cav, the rus bow, danish greatswords and glaives while you're at it

I just wish they would un-nerf the long vougle.

[Cicero]

Don't forget

Lordly Heavy Yawshan

[Lichen]

a buff heavy armor thread, lmao

buff cav, the rus bow, danish greatswords and glaives while you're at it

Only 'buff' plate needs is the old armor soak values so you can actually fight in it again. But it looks like that's not going to happen. If the goal is to get people to not use it I'd say that goal is almost achieved 100%. Might as well remove them from the game or just give them med armor stats and prices.

[Smoothrich]

Look if you don't know how to own people when in FULL PLATE, I don't know what to tell you.  I doubt you'd do any better in lighter armor either.  This has nothing to do with weight values.

[Tears of Destiny]

I want a vote option for "Increase protection and increase weight and increase cost and increase upkeep." Where is my 70 base protection plate with a break cost of 4K?

EDIT: For clarity I don't think Plate needs to be buffed, I think it needs to be changed as a concept/role of how it is in game.

[Lichen]

Look if you don't know how to own people when in FULL PLATE, I don't know what to tell you.  I doubt you'd do any better in lighter armor either.  This has nothing to do with weight values.

Much easier to fight in med/light armor. MUCH. I get way more kills in rags. Main thing plate had going for it was the ability to glance weak blows to allow you to continue to fight uninterrupted. Now every little hit renders you unable to fight which basically defeats the main idea of heavy armor which is to provide a 'buffer' to weak hits.

[Smoothrich]

Much easier to fight in med/light armor. MUCH. I get way more kills in rags. Main thing plate had going for it was the ability to glance weak blows to allow you to continue to fight uninterrupted. Now every little hit renders you unable to fight which basically defeats the main idea of heavy armor which is to provide a 'buffer' to weak hits.

I'm sorry that the game designers intend for you to still have to use manual blocking no matter how much armor you want to crutch with.  If you play like a regular player and block and attack with some decent agility you will have just as much killing power except every attack on you does almost no damage whatsoever or glances, while being immune to most ranged.  Its a massive advantage to survivability and a trade off in mobility.  If you expect to be literally invincible without blocking at all times then no thanks.

[Fartface]

Don't forget

Lordly Heavy Yawshan

[zagibu]

If you play like a regular player and block and attack with some decent agility you will have just as much killing power except every attack on you does almost no damage whatsoever or glances, while being immune to most ranged.  Its a massive advantage to survivability and a trade off in mobility.

Smoothrich has spoken, thread can be closed. All plate armor users complaining about it are noobs that can't manual block. More news at five.

[Lichen]

I'm sorry that the game designers intend for you to still have to use manual blocking no matter how much armor you want to crutch with.  If you play like a regular player and block and attack with some decent agility you will have just as much killing power except every attack on you does almost no damage whatsoever or glances, while being immune to most ranged.  Its a massive advantage to survivability and a trade off in mobility.  If you expect to be literally invincible without blocking at all times then no thanks.

Show me a good plate user who DOESN'T use a maul. Now show me a good player who DOESN'T use medium armor. There's a reason for that. Doesn't matter much to me though anymore as it's obvious to me by now that using plate is simply very foolish and very limited use (it's good if you use a maul with it).

[Bobthehero]

Its a massive advantage to survivability and a trade off in mobility.  If you expect to be literally invincible without blocking at all times then no thanks.

You also lose WPF, and therefore speed and damage (rumour has it that its 1 damage/ 15 wpf you lose roughly 75 wpf IIRC)