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Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« on: August 18, 2012, 11:21:35 pm »
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No matter how many kills you get as ranged, you will almost never beat a melee with half the kills.

I guess it is because you are getting rewarded for being close to dieing opponent.

Guess what... Ranged doesn't do that! That doesn't mean they dont contribute to the team or the teamplay if - as on many maps - the ranged are protected or gathering up at specific good spots.

Several times I have had or seen other ranged 15 kills and still Random_melee_or_cav_guy with 7kills has almost twice the score.

Fix this!

And if valour now is based on scores - fix it asap!

It is getting boring killing 3 per round and still only just make it to top 10 in scores.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 11:20:02 pm by Panzerstyle »

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2012, 03:06:23 am »
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If score is going to help determining the xp and gold gained, instead of multy, it would be nice to tweak it a bit to reward good range.

At the moment, it's more rewarding to shoot an horse, than shoot the cav. And the headshots doesn't seem to give much score.

On the other one, one of my arrow hit a teammate who rushed to kill an ennemy range, after i had shot him twice, and i lost something like 6 points.

I did manage to get valour once with my dear archer though. (on NA1 xD)
Even though i can get it a bit more easily on my cav alt wich is 2 level less than my main, and that i only started playing as cav since the previous gen.

Indeed, the score is not in our favour (you can get 1points in melee with a hammer doing 1dmg everytime, while you get 4 for a fantastic headshot on a good cav player. Hourra.)
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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2012, 01:08:49 pm »
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Being archer isn't that bad but if you're using arbalest, you won't earn many points, that's for sure.

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2012, 01:17:32 pm »
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Yep.. Arbalest is pretty hard on the points. Pull of a long range headshot, and get an amazing two points!  :mrgreen:
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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2012, 01:19:29 pm »
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Good point Leshma. I bet it's hard to gain a good score as dedicated Crossbowman. Those who regularly go into melee, and only rarely use the crossbow (like taking some shots in the beginning of the round), won't have that problem as they are not only going with the group but also engage in melee. Standing behind and doing 5 shots a minute, with 3 out of 5 missing; they won't get many points. Archers are a bit better in that case. A bit.

Some thought will be needed here if xp and gold will ever be about the score (which seems like it, why else would score be needed :) ).
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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 01:21:00 pm »
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Add more score for headshots and it will balance out easily for the best ranged.

Simple as that.

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 08:48:09 pm »
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Add more score for headshots and it will balance out easily for the best ranged.

Simple as that.

My thoughts exactly. More points for headshots will encourage skilled play from ranged if they want to do well, and help balance out the amount of points they lose for being far away from the melee.
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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 06:30:38 pm »
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A hospillater archer was in 1st place this morning, and when I switched on my archer alt I made 1st/2nd place for a while too, with not that many kills.

If you hit ppl a lot, you will score well.  Also, if you stay near your team sometimes and support them!

In very large battles, this may be different (cuz lots of score sharing going on in the massed groups) but in med/small battles it seems to work fine.

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 06:59:59 pm »
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add a multiplier for how far away the target is and how much it moves

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 10:13:45 pm »
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I haven't had any issue being near the top of the scoreboard, occasionally on top even. That would almost never happen before. I think it's doing the job it was intended to do.
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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 11:12:41 pm »
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Try to be first in EU_1 New with a dedicated crosbowman :  Almost impossible... :mad:



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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 11:23:47 pm »
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Only Dave can do it, but that's because he's fighting half of the time.

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 12:21:28 pm »
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Try to be first in EU_1 New with a dedicated crosbowman :  Almost impossible... :mad:

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 12:24:49 pm »
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This is more apparent with slower firing, longer range ranged, not so much with hornbow spammers and such.

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Re: Ranged are overlooked when calculating scores!
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 08:39:30 pm »
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I am currently playing a 15-24 arbalestier with some 2h wpf, and I find myself earning just the right amount of valour. Sometimes when I plug a horse with my big ole' crossbow, I'll get 6 points. That's a fuck-shit-stack of points for something that was likely neither dangerous to me, nor difficult in particular. I'm not the best arbalest player, it's my first generation out of 7 as a semi-dedicated ranged player. I have earned my share of valour, and when I have, I always felt like I really helped my team win, and I ended up very high on the scoreboard. Often I end up getting flanked, lanced, or straight up melee'd if my team falls apart. Most of the time when I die with few points, it is entirely my own fault. I could have paid more attention to the flankers and lancers, I could have ran away in melee. I could have stuck with more competent teammates. I could have done any number of things. If I don't do well, I've no chance of getting valour. I feel that is how it should be.
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