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[Rhekimos]

Archers shot so fast, 3 were able to keep a melee player in constant arrow stun.

[Pentecost]

The respawn thing is good, but you should seriously reconsider the range gameplay adjustments. The biggest foreseeable effect of your proposed changes to both archers AND crossbows would be to make cavalry even more powerful in field battles than it already is, since you're weakening the only class that can consistently check them.

[Lt_Anders]

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awesome.

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If we want to Balance by class...
REMEMBER STRAT BATTLES ONLY. DOES NOT AFFECT REGULAR CRPG

Melee Changes
Decrease the Damage from 2h swords by 25-33%. Increase damage from 1h by 10-17%. Decrease damage on polearms over 160 length by 15% and leave Under 160 unchanged.

Ranged
Archery down by 30-40%. Xbow Damage down 10-20% or no change at all. Throwing should have no change.

Armor
Make mail armor be baseline. If you have LESS than mail, you should get a damage increase to your class(2h, bow, xbow, etc) If you have OVER mail, decrease your damage.(at MOST 5% for these changes.)

-1 before I even finished. 

[Lt_Anders]

Good to see you are giving critques on the ranged nerf and nerfs for strat.

Not like any of those affect battle at all.

[Rhekimos]

How about an upper limit for the respawn time? 30 deaths x 4 seconds is a long wait.

[chadz]

Don't die 30 times.

[Thovex]

There go the retards playing strategus, woo.

[Rhekimos]

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I had thought of that.

Also, not knowing when you will spawn makes it hard to defend against spawn killing. Would a timer be possible?

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[Bjarky]

yes too countdown timer for respawn, it's truly annoying not knowing when you spawn..

[Swaggart]

Sheild should be supreme so sheilders would be the most used class.

Why?

[Tomas]

Have to say that i think you are going about this the wrong way

The reason people are respeccing is because early on in Strat there is no Cav which means archers are king.  No Cav means archers are free to kite as much as they want without fear.  Once Strat gets far enough that we have Cav again all these respeccers will respec right back to melee/cav again.

What needs to happen is the following

1) Decrease the cost of the lighter horses
2) Increase in the cost of the heavier bows/xbows.
3) Fix Cav spawns (if not already done)
4) Prevent Spawning when there are enemies within 1 or 2m of a spawn flag.  This will mean that teams have to defend in FRONT of their spawn.  Currently most teams defend behind it and just charge down when needed.  This allows defending archers to hug the hill that usually occurs at the edge of the map meaning their backs are always protected.  Force them forward and they are then more vulnerable to flanking attacks and less OP.
5) Make Shield requirements strength based for Strat.  Without skill even the decent 1 slot shields will break in melee quickly so they are only really useful vs archers.  It also means better formations instead of 30 2Hs hiding behind 5 Shielders

[Lt_Anders]

Why?

Basing it upon the fact that 1h is the most common medieval style of combat, along with the spear. 2h came about as a counter to pole based squad tactics. It would also increase teamwork due to the limited range of combat of 1h weapons. Shields are NOT duelists(with shield at least).  It would also make poles the pre-eminent  support weapon. Cav would be REAL good with this change(especially 1h cav) and 2h would loose their supreme versatility.

I still think that 10% maybe to much if you add the armor change. If you add the armor change perhaps all the damage changes i proposed should be 5% lower for everything.

[Dach]

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