Macros : Cheat or Not?

[dreadnok]

In our Moonspeak, Immortality said that Cicero is using macros. I dont know whether it's true or not, But i wanted to learn if using them is forbidden ( or should be forbidden). By macros i mean some atack-movement combinations which made by another software that gives clear advantage. And also i want to learn if it's detectable. What are your opinions?

half the supposed good players are hacks one way or the other

[duurrr]

half the supposed good players are hacks one way or the other

do you tell that to yourself to help you sleep at night?

[owens]

I have played against good players with auto block and very very good players without it macros are an advantage but not a huge one. Still spending so much time to be killed by someone with an advantage that is unfair is not fun.

[Torost]

Many small advantages sums up... Looms , macros , custom textures, and gfx settings.
Some of these are more valuable than say an autoblocker(bannable), but since its hard to test for, and its a game, relative litte harm done, let people have their fun.Shady, but not cheating.

One simple use of macros not yet mentioned, that would be very usefull to an archer, is a macro for releasing the arrow with perfect timing, maxing holddamage every shot made. 0.50 sec hold before release.

Same with meleeweapons but that is trickier, since people block and move.

[Vodner]

Since the idea of lolfeints only being possible with macros has appeared a few times on these forums, I decided to upload some videos. All of these feints are done without macros.

I don't spend a lot of time practicing lolfeints, so mine are sloppy compared to people who practice them a lot. Better executed feints won't shake the camera quite as much, and will make better use of the player model / camera angles to obscure attack directions.

Lolfeinting so rapidly that the feints are actually useless.

Lolfeinting at a more useful speed (I don't actually hit the ideal speed until about halfway through this).

Lolfeinting combined with strafing (Again, I don't actually hit the ideal speed until around 2/3rds in).

[dodnet]

Watching those native 2h duels makes me sick. All those idiots constantly looking at the bottom - it's just retarded. Gladly there aren't many of those retards in cRPG.

Using macros for feints and shit is really lame.

I tried to create some macro with Autohotkey for making voice commands like whistling easier, but it doesn't work very well... it gets stuck somewhere in the command menu very often. Gave up on this 

Lolfeinting so rapidly that the feints are actually useless.

Lolfeinting at a more useful speed (I don't actually hit the ideal speed until about halfway through this).

Lolfeinting combined with strafing (Again, I don't actually hit the ideal speed until around 2/3rds in).

How can you play the game with all this shaking around? I would get headaches after a minute.

I'm not very good at blocking and I can't feint at all, but Im very proud if I manage to actually beat some guy and know its my own skill and not some macro that did the work for me 

[Huey Newton]

let them use it.
combat is slow.

[wanteds]

Combat is not slow, ppl who say combat is slow are wearing too much armor. You cant have it all, armor or speed, not both.

[dodnet]

Yeah, combat speed is fine.

Or maybe I'm too old...

[Vibe]

for noobs

[Molly]

for noobs

Perfectly good for you then?

Yea, shielder protecting xbowman was just one example.

If I see a horse coming to the enemy in front if me I try to change the angle in a way the enemy is facing his back to my cav guy. When I see an archer aiming at my enemy, again, I try to change the angle, try to time my attack with the reload of the archer.
We all know those kind of situations and yes, that is teamplay but that is the only teamplay happening and in 90% it's just by accident and happens once a week.

I'd love to see this kind of behaviour more often but you would need a smart inf, a smart archer and a smart cav for it to work and the smart-part is exactly the point I have high doubts when it comes to this community.
Atm the inf want the kill badly, the archer wants the kill badly and so does the cav too. Ends in teamwounding, ragepolling and cursing like a truck driver. That is the cRPG-reality.

The fact that actually everyone can easily kill as solo-hero isn't really helpful either. One of the reasons I hate the idea of making the game faster and that way even "harder" for "normal" players and better for all those elitist-2h-hero-wankers...

[Fartface]

Macro´s are realy effective against average and low skill players who will panic and failblock it , but against good players they either just block it without any trouble or just spam and get an hit at you , while your macroing and looking at the ground it´s pretty hard to spot an swing coming.

[Vibe]

The fact that actually everyone can easily kill as solo-hero isn't really helpful either. One of the reasons I hate the idea of making the game faster and that way even "harder" for "normal" players and better for all those elitist-2h-hero-wankers...

Yes let's have the game slowed down so benkei and benkei- alikes can actually be useful and let's have anyone (or should I say everyone except benkei) who has at least a bit of clue at melee be bored because of it.

PS the 2h elitist hero whatever argument is getting old, this is about game speed which includes all playstyles, not just 2h whoring.

[Oberyn]

half the supposed good players are hacks one way or the other

This is what a lot of autoblockers whined when they were caught. "UUUurrr everyone cheats anyways!! So I should too". Hmmm, interesting...anything you want to tell us, dreadnok?

[dodnet]

This is what a lot of autoblockers whined when they were caught. "UUUurrr everyone cheats anyways!! So I should too". Hmmm, interesting...anything you want to tell us, dreadnok?

I LOL'ed