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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2012, 12:43:53 am »
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I play almost exclusively 1h / shield

Blunt and Piercing dmg are fine, the problem is cut dmg on most of the swords are too low. Some swords are fine tho but most of them are underpowered. Not a single sword behave the same way you can look at stats all day long and on paper sword have good stats but when you start using the weapon you notice that some sword you cannot use the right swing cause its bugged, overhead swing is not reliable and left swing is predictable vs almost anyone that know how to play the game.

Axe have very high cut dmg compare to swords , have same or higher speed and destroy shields, so i dont see why some swords shouldnt get a slight cut damage buff.

axes are freaking tiny, as well as easy to see and slower.
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2012, 01:08:05 am »
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Try stabbing if you know you going up a decent kicker worked for me when i was a shielder.
I did this quite a lot prior to the turn speed nerf, but at the moment stabbing an opponent with higher ath is a substantial risk. You now need enough ath to control range to ensure it doesn't glance. Before, you could spin the stab at fairly close range to ensure a clean hit, regardless of the ath difference.
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2012, 01:10:57 am »
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furthermore, to get the stab off chances are you will have to be much closer to square in front of the kicker and therefore getting das boot
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #108 on: August 08, 2012, 02:42:37 am »
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Try stabbing if you know you going up a decent kicker worked for me when i was a shielder.
Yeah thats what I thought when fighting Hearst, he didn't give a shit and blocked all my stabs while kicking. Most good players can block stabs while kicking.

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2012, 02:50:52 am »
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Yeah thats what I thought when fighting Hearst, he didn't give a shit and blocked all my stabs while kicking. Most good players can block stabs while kicking.

Hearst is not human
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #110 on: August 08, 2012, 04:27:52 am »
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Yeah thats what I thought when fighting Hearst, he didn't give a shit and blocked all my stabs while kicking. Most good players can block stabs while kicking.

You attacked after seeing him kick? If so, that's too late, you need to anticipate (or rather bait) the kick to hit. The timeframe where a kicker can't block down is quite short. You probably stabbed before or/and after that period of vulnerability.

Anyway, let's hope they introduce no blocking while kicking like cmp talked about. Hearst is just spamming kicks and make the most of it when it hits. It's not like he hit many, compared to how many he tries.
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #111 on: August 08, 2012, 04:35:07 am »
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Anyway, let's hope they introduce no blocking while kicking like cmp talked about. Hearst is just spamming kicks and make the most of it when it hits. It's not like he hit many, compared to how many he tries.

what what? no block while kicking? shit, then they may remove kicking all together, and with that many duelers. all builds which are not agi builds will become useless. duels will become utterly boring and I want to add on top of that:

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #112 on: August 08, 2012, 04:41:09 am »
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If you're a good kicker you won't care, except the (few) times you miss. As of now, spamming kicks hasn't got the downside it should have, considering the fact that you'll get a free hit when you nail the kick (not to mention it's easy to do a headhit after a kick)

It would punish people spamming kicks like retards but help the ones that time them right (remember that cmp mentioned somewhat increased range and even some turning added!)
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #113 on: August 08, 2012, 04:49:41 am »
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I don't know, why fix something that isn't broken?
To land a kick is not easy, it requires lots of practice to get the hang of it, and it's the only thing 2h/polearm  players have against the 1h facehug left swing spammers.
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #114 on: August 08, 2012, 05:14:23 am »
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I don't know, why fix something that isn't broken?

Getting a free hit (which is easily made a headhit for extra damage) with almost no risk at all is not broken? How come?
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #115 on: August 08, 2012, 05:17:12 am »
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Why nobody uses it then, except for a few, if its op?
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2012, 12:02:09 pm »
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its ridiculously OP, not many people use it cause its sketchy in battle with lotsa people around so most people dont bother learning it. but on duel lotsa people do it, some of em with like 5% land rate, but so what? theres hardly any risk involved, even if you do get some stabs off on the guy kicking, you have to put your entire focus on stabbing lots in which case they can just stop kicking and either try to get you to glance on a stab (which isnt that hard) or if they are good at chambering, they can chamber your stab which stuns you long enough that you cant block the incoming hit. so yeah, kicking is an issue.

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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2012, 02:19:25 pm »
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its ridiculously OP, not many people use it cause its sketchy in battle with lotsa people around so most people dont bother learning it. but on duel lotsa people do it, some of em with like 5% land rate, but so what? theres hardly any risk involved, even if you do get some stabs off on the guy kicking, you have to put your entire focus on stabbing lots in which case they can just stop kicking and either try to get you to glance on a stab (which isnt that hard) or if they are good at chambering, they can chamber your stab which stuns you long enough that you cant block the incoming hit. so yeah, kicking is an issue.

He also said apart from removing the block he's going to increase the RANGE of kicks. That's a bad, bad idea and will make the kicking problem even worse.
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2012, 03:13:15 pm »
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Re: 1 hand needs a fix.
« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2012, 03:26:17 pm »
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OT of kicking...can you hurt someone while he kicks by hitting the leg? Since the leg is closer to your swing than his/her blocking weapon