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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2012, 08:41:23 pm »
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hmm how abbout this then?

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 5
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 111
Throwing: 115

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 02:33:14 am »
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Yeah that's fine, I would take 5 shield tho unless you have a nice +3 shield, you can prolly drop WM by 1 since you don't need that much throw WPF for your armor and 4 PT.

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 11:27:26 am »
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yeah i have masterpice elite cav shield so i should be fine with 4 shield skill.

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 06:55:39 pm »
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Could some one tell me the melee (secondary mode) swing damage of the MW Heavy Throwing Axe's please?

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2012, 07:45:28 pm »
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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2012, 07:46:28 pm »
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Where do you find the secondary melee stats for weapons please?

Also will I be accurate enough with PT 6 and 118 wpf in throwing with Banded armor, Guard Helmet and mail Chausers?
« Last Edit: August 10, 2012, 07:57:11 pm by Glando »

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2012, 10:38:28 pm »
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secondary stats only viewable ingame.

You left out gloves with that suit... You should be ok tho unless you're gonna wear big plate gloves.


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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2012, 01:59:27 pm »
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I have 118 wpf in throwing and am about to hit lvl 31.If I was to go for PT 7 is 118 enough for this?Also is 106 wpf enough in 1 hander for power strike 7?

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2012, 02:42:09 pm »
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I have 118 wpf in throwing and am about to hit lvl 31.If I was to go for PT 7 is 118 enough for this?Also is 106 wpf enough in 1 hander for power strike 7?

That depends on how you wanna play your hybrid. Do you want to focus on melee and use throwing only as backup, then 118 thr, 106 1h is ok. But if you wanna focus on throwing, what i would prefer (throwing axes are a real nightmare for horses), i would put more points into throwing.
I did read a lot, that it doesnt matter that much for accuracy how much throwing wpf you have - i dont think so. For me more wpf helped a lot with accuracy (with heavy throwing axes at least).
On my throwing alt (21/18, 7pt, 4 ps, no shield, effective armor weight 17) i have 145 in throwing and 70 in 1h and it works like a charm. Going into melee is fine, 70 1h wpf are more than enough for me, next gen i will only put 50 in 1h.

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2012, 03:48:06 pm »
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having both high PT & PS is pointless

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2012, 04:46:35 pm »
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I have 118 wpf in throwing and am about to hit lvl 31.If I was to go for PT 7 is 118 enough for this?Also is 106 wpf enough in 1 hander for power strike 7?

PT to WPF ratio really depends on your armor weight. If you are naked, it's 14 WPF to each PT (some people say 13, I haven't tested it recently), so if or 7 PT you would only need 98. Like Diggles said tho, there's not much point, if you wanna mess around with high PT you may as well make a gimmick pure thrower alt.

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2012, 06:50:58 pm »
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Nice one!

If you are naked you need 91 wpf. But I would do 100 wpf in 1h and the rest in throwing. I use the same build for my hoplite thrower just that I use polearm wpp instead of 1h.

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2012, 10:10:07 am »
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Here's a build that often gave me VERY mixed results, but it's fun to play regardless:

Level 31 (15 str, 21 agi)

skill points:
4 ironflesh
4 power strike
4 power throw
7 athletics
7 weapon master
6 shield

Proficiencies:
One hand: 100
Throwing: 145

Wear super light armor (I usually go with a Padded Jacket or Padded Cloth; you don't need much, just something to keep you living past getting hit once. You can outrun most enemies anyway, and with such high Shield skill, your shield can replace armor reasonably well, until some 2h hero comes around and bashes it to bits.)
Use your  throwing to support melee team-mates (I tend to hold off on this one due to fear of teamwounding), harass heavy infantry (lock them in pain state), and to keep archers from going to town on your team-mates. Afterwards, you can use your mid-tier melee stats to do competently well as a light-infantry support to your team-mates.

I usually go with:

12 war darts/ 6 javelins
Iberian mace (The war darts can kill off most enemy light troops, so it's good to save this for the heavy armor guys who can survive your dart spam)
Kite shield or Round Shield

OR

9 Heavy Throwing Axes
Kite shield or Round Shield
And I reserve last axe for melee.

Although this build makes a good support harasser, you tend to get completely outclassed by many builds in a 1 on 1 encounter. However, you can rely on your speed to find shelter or team-mates.

Next respec/retire, I'm going to switch things around a bit: Instead of using throwing as my main combat, I'm gonna just use it as pre-charge peppering, and focus more on strength, ironflesh, and power strike, as many of the above posted builds have done.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2012, 10:25:42 am by PaulD »

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2012, 04:15:25 pm »
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Thanks for all the help with this chaps.I have to say PT 7 with MW Heavy throwing axes is really effective.I have been one hitting a fair few people with that setup!

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Re: Thrower/shielder Build?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2012, 08:37:08 pm »
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I got some +3 Heavy Throwing axes for this gen, running a 21/15 build with 5PT and 91 throwing wpf, and I've been amazed how good the melee secondary mode of the throwing axes are. The reach isn't as bad as I thought, especially with right swings. People are also kind of careless around you because they don't view a throwing weapon as a threat in melee (or they expect you to stagger when they get near).

I'm almost thinking of ditching my +3 mil hammer in favor of another stack of axes, but I know I'd miss the knockdown and being able to actually hurt people in plate.