Thrower/shielder Build?

[Glando]

Hi there, I was looking at making a thrower, 1 hander/shielder build (using heavy throwing axes and secondary mode).

Here is the build I was looking at:

STR: 21
AGI: 15

Ironflesh: 0
Pwr Strike: 7
Pwr Throw: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Weapon master: 5

Would this build be ok with 0 IF and how much WPF should I be putting into throwing and 1 hander.

What is the minimum WPF in throwing I could use and still be accurate?

Any help, much appreciated.

[Tzar]

on paper it looks good but.. take it from someone who tried its not worth it the weight from your throwing weapons + your shield makes you a static easy kill..

Only do this build if you plan to play in rags or some cloth armor.

If you wanna do a thrower hybrid i suggest you use either a 2h/pole/1h without shield.

Also no matter how much wpf you plan to pump into throwing you will never be accurate so only borther gettin what you need to still be able to use em.

[Shieldoom]

110/116 (throw/1-h) or 100/120
But you won't be able to use heavy armors

[Tore]

Nice one!

If you are naked you need 91 wpf. But I would do 100 wpf in 1h and the rest in throwing. I use the same build for my hoplite thrower just that I use polearm wpp instead of 1h.

[Leshma]

75-90 in 1h is just fine most of the time.

You should be able to put points in IF...

[Glando]

Thanks for all the help.

[Christo]

I rolled a 18/18 thrower/shielder hybrid, and used axes.

When I had to melee, I just switched to axe melee mode. It was awesome.

[Glando]

I respecced my main for this build and went back from lvl 30 to lvl 28.I have made a bad error and put 6 points in power draw instead of power throw 

I can not belive I have made such a mistake.

To make it even worse I had assigned all my other points with 120 wpf in throwing.

Is there any way i can get this reversed or am I stuck with it?

[Digglez]

check NH clan thread in my sig for other throwing builds.

Most popular shielder footman build we use is Huskarl, although we typically use heavy round shields instead of huscarls.  Carry a stack of throwing daggers if you have x1, x2..double up on axes with x3 or higher.

HUSKARL:  A well rounded foot soldier utilizing his namesake shield
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Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 62
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 124
Throwing: 100


Although we could probably tweak this build to add more IF since they reduced the armor penalty for throwing WPF.

Hybrids throwers should not exceed 5 PT, past that you might as well go all in and be a pure thrower.  Slamz is the only hybrid with more than 5 PT and he does ok with his spears & GLA.

[Mlekce]

hmm how much wpf points in throwing i need if i want to have 4 pt? Does 4 pt is good or it is bad idea to have?

[Digglez]

I wouldnt really bother with anything LOWER than 4 PT, get and use heavy axes.  Give yourself UP to 2 weeks to develop your aim and prediction skills (throw where someone is heading, not where they're AT).

5 PT is for people that STICK with throwing and are getting good at it, 5 makes you a MUCH bigger threat to unarmored horses (majority of cav) and players in mail and lighter armors.


WPF you invest very much depends on what armor you want to wear as a hybrid.  I wear medium-heavy armor therefore I have to spend 110 in throwing.  If you are fine in lighter armor then you can get away with MUCH less, like 70-80

[Turboflex]

4-5 PT depends how much you want throwing to hurt vs extra IF and 1h wpf. Really a personal pref, if you are just starting to throw maybe use 4 PT since it takes a while to get good at so you won't be owning with it right away anyways.

If you are wearing typical medium gear you need maybe 80-95 WPF for 4 PT and 90-105 for 5 PT, really depends on exact gear tho. Helms and gloves have extra penalty.

Personally I go 24-12 cuz my footwork is pretty good so I can make up for being a bit slow. Also Im pretty good at throwing so I just step back and throw at anyone who tries to kite me (use heavy throwing axes for this, fast wind-up good for close range).

Don't listen to Tzar, if you are already a good shielder and smart about using throwing, you no longer need to crutch run speed anyways cuz your throwing axes just give you tactical ability to own people 10-30 yards away so who needs food speed? You just added ability to outrange any other melee.

[Mlekce]

i was thinking to lower my ps and put some points in throwing to kill ppl in clusterfucks and runners,or maybie scare cav not to lance me.

i want to go with this build 18/18
6ps,athl,wm
4 shield,if,pt
111 in 1h 120 in throwing.

gear i have lordly archon's armor,+3 lammelar gloves,+3 ncs,+3 elite cav shield,loomed guard helmet.
So what i can use of this gear,and how effective will this build be?

[Digglez]

i was thinking to lower my ps and put some points in throwing to kill ppl in clusterfucks and runners,or maybie scare cav not to lance me.

i want to go with this build 18/18
6ps,athl,wm
4 shield,if,pt
111 in 1h 120 in throwing.

gear i have lordly archon's armor,+3 lammelar gloves,+3 ncs,+3 elite cav shield,loomed guard helmet.
So what i can use of this gear,and how effective will this build be?

your armor weight is pretty close to what we use, so you'll be fine. 120 throwing WPF is actually quite high for only 4 PT. Assuming your boots are around 1.7 weight, you'll only be needing around 79 WPF (go over it by 10-15 though).
I'd take a point out of WM and put it into shield.  Throwing only needs to be 90'ish, so you can do 120 1H instead

[Turboflex]

If you're gonna go 18 STR, your melee hits are gonna be a bit on the weak side. In this case you might wanna up your PT. With you gear, even PT 6 would just need about 105-110. Since you wanna sit back and snipe a bit more, bring some jarids or throwing spears. They'll also really hurt the armored guys your PS 6 has trouble with.