Why do picks do so much damage?

[Konrax]

Just wondering why they are so damn effective compared to all other weapons as far as raw damage and speed are concerned.

Using a hammer is kind of pointless... because if you use a pick you will land hits more often (speed) and kill in equal or less swings (damage).

For example, the BEST 1h stabbing weapon, the espada, does 30 damage base. Steel pick however does 32 damage.


I like the idea of having so many different types of weapons that you can really find a niche, but the pick imho has a bit too much goodness compared to other weapons in the same class.

/kick dead horse

[Leshma]

Hammers have knockdown which is epic feature. I think that hammers are slightly better than picks.

[Miwiw]

It's also pierce damage and quite short, not always really useful. You really need to face hug to spam the enemy, and it is of course not the best weapon vs light/medium armor (that is why its 32 dmg I guess).
Most people will prefer some knockdown chance though.

[rustyspoon]

The real problem with the pick is its good damage, combined with its fast speed and the fact that it is INCREDIBLY difficult to see. If they made the model easier to see, I would be happy.

[Bobthehero]

It's also pierce damage

That is not a bad side. Pierce is better than cut in every regards.

[Leshma]

The real problem with the pick is its good damage, combined with its fast speed and the fact that it is INCREDIBLY difficult to see. If they made the model easier to see, I would be happy.

Not that hard. I can block kinngrimm most of the time and he has one digit ping and 30 agi build.

[Kafein]

Pierce is only slightly better than blunt (maybe even worse against high armor actually since the soak modifier change), 1h hammers and maces are barely slower than picks, slightly longer, heavier (no block stun), even the cheapest 1h maces have very good stats and most importantly they all got knockdown.

Imo 1h hammers are superior to picks.

It's true sword stabs could use a buff though, especially those that do less than 20 damage and glance on everything. It's almost better to get a no-stab weapon in that case.

[Teeth]

Afaik blunt is better against armor up until a value of 60 raw damage, then pierce starts being better. Just see them as pretty much equal.

That is not a bad side. Pierce is better than cut in every regards.

It always seemed to me that pierce is really bad at breaking shields, might just be the lower base damage value though.

[cmp]

might just be the lower base damage value though.

Yep.

[Vodner]

Picks are incredibly short. This leaves you vulnerable to kicks, and forces you to get in range of several opponents in order to land a hit in a group fight.

[Knitler]

They aim for your haid ... i would you would be a onehit when you have a badder helmet than nordic helmet, im using mw awlpike with 6PS

[a_bear_irl]

i think it's weird that the pick does more damage than an english bill, especially considering that the bill is a 2d weapon 

[Strider]

picks arent too buff its just that blunts weapons are way too UP now.

[Digglez]

blunt is epic.  1st swing, knock someone down, 2nd swing hit'em on the ground, kick'em and 3rd swing in the head to finish'em off.  picks arent cool like that

[San]

I don't like to use the warhammer because I do the stab by accident, but a loomed iberian mace is so very nice. My 8 PS gets many knockdowns on people when I use one. +1 blunt on warhammer seems fine to me. Steel pick isn't even much faster compared to other 1hers, it's just how its model looks to some people. When I fight a pick, it's hard to tell whose swing will hit first sometimes. When I fight other pick users, I don't get much damage unless they are high strength.

Cut 1hers (especially short) should get a cut damage buff imo.