Author Topic: Shield bash - It's the new kick!  (Read 1898 times)

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2012, 07:52:29 pm »
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i like this idea .

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2012, 08:22:55 pm »
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Shielders should have an advantage over 2h in very close range, which is not the case now. 2h can hiltslash from either side, whereas 1h can only hiltslash from the left. Thus, this shield bash mechanic should be slightly better than the kick mechanic. I propose same range and effect as a kick, except it blocks melee attacks from all four directions during the attack (2h and pole can block 3 directions during a kick). It should have some kind of cooldown though, as should normal kick.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2012, 09:02:34 pm »
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Dont think a shieldbash is needed.

Would be nice for the style but would also need carefully tweaking
and a very good animation so I`d say it`s not worth the effort.

(And it was suggested over 9000 times)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMwkYVO9t4 that's the animation (i think it fits well) , devs should just tweak the range/momentum of the bash and obviously test it.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2012, 09:09:35 pm »
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Kicking in a fight where both parts are armed with weapons longer and bigger than daggers is extremely stupid. The kick is unrealistic and ridiculous, so removing and replacing it for one of the classes would be awesome. Bashing your opponent with your shield makes a lot of sense in real life so it would be a historically accurate stun-move, unlike the kick.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2012, 09:37:56 pm »
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Kicking in a fight where both parts are armed with weapons longer and bigger than daggers is extremely stupid. The kick is unrealistic and ridiculous, so removing and replacing it for one of the classes would be awesome. Bashing your opponent with your shield makes a lot of sense in real life so it would be a historically accurate stun-move, unlike the kick.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2012, 09:45:52 pm »
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QFT

Shield bash for shielders, pommel/shaft strike for 1h/2h/poles without shield.

Indeed, when done with a pike it causes a 3m wide push!
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2012, 10:23:53 pm »
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Indeed, when done with a pike it causes a 3m wide push!
A 3m sideways push? ME WANTS!
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2012, 11:52:02 pm »
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Not a good idea in my opinion if you think game balance. It could just used as replacing animation but not adding any auto-block and other shit. Shielders have their advantage already using ''auto-block'' which non-shielded players can answer with kick. To shielder to use kick it should be more risky and if you want to use it just put shied to your back. In battles you almost never see succesful kick or even player trying one so i don't see why people see it overpowered and such.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2012, 11:59:03 pm »
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Not a good idea in my opinion if you think game balance.

I say th opposite, give it slightly less range then a kick, and make it last a bit longer maybe, so if performed wrong your enemy has enough time to walk around and hit around the shield.

1Handers already have less range and damage, and thus have a hard time in duels. Kicks are also worse with shield, so i say this would help shielders a little in duelling (as said before, kicking is rarely used in battles, only in duels.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 12:22:20 am »
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Maybe during a shield bash, you can't block, but shield armor is added to your body armor when hit? It will help those agi shielders who actually have a chance to get them in on duels without completely gimping them (STR shielders have little hope of this), and helps STR shielders in shield wall frontal assaults.

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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2012, 01:17:59 am »
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Maybe during a shield bash, you can't block, but shield armor is added to your body armor when hit? It will help those agi shielders who actually have a chance to get them in on duels without completely gimping them (STR shielders have little hope of this), and helps STR shielders in shield wall frontal assaults.
yeah, when a weapon strikes you before you land your shield bash You'll receive damage but your shield increases your body armor so you take less. +1 a very nice idea :)

it shouldn't be spammable either.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2012, 01:49:22 am »
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This is awesome.
It shouldn't unbalance the game as long as a kick and shield bash meeting knock both players down.
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2012, 02:23:28 am »
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This is awesome.
It shouldn't unbalance the game as long as a kick and shield bash meeting knock both players down.
And if two shieldbash hits each other? THE WHOLE SERVER GETS KNOCKED DOWN!
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2012, 02:39:11 am »
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And if two shieldbash hits each other? THE WHOLE SERVER GETS KNOCKED DOWN!

Both get thrown to the end of the map, including fall damage  :mrgreen:
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Re: Shield bash - It's the new kick!
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2012, 02:49:59 am »
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Catching every missile in a 120° cone and blocking all incoming strikes by just clicking rmb sure isnt enough. I suggest those energyshields should be upgraded with newest technology of portable shockwave devices, knocking down every enemy in a 30 m radius.
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