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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2012, 07:47:51 pm »
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What you like is very different to what I like it seems. Being useless until lvl 27, which I suspect its a long time, doesn't sound like fun, it sounds masochistic.

The useless period reduces with skill.

New and/or bad players are useless even at 30
Decent players are useless until around 26
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2012, 08:11:26 pm »
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On siege everyone can be usefull even at lvl 1. Cause you need no skill to open a gate or deploy a ladder. Also standing next to the flag doesn't require any skill as well. Or luring away kill-hungry enemies from the flag.. there are many things you can do which don't involve fighting.
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2012, 08:22:54 pm »
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just another reason to bring back ladders on siege, so peasants can contribute without having to get kills.  I used to be the bomb siege master ladder thrower and would be the difference my team needed to win

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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2012, 08:43:06 pm »
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Play rageball. You will constantly respawn and get lots of practice fighting lightly armed / armored opponents. Plus the maps are cool and we now have a server in NA.

 
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2012, 08:58:57 pm »
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But I do want to level, but I don't want it to be so absurd in its start requirements. I don't see the fun in getting killed with no chance all the time. What's the point in playing in that case? I just want a small fighting chance, not being and not intending to be an expert in duels using sticks and stones.

Every time I retire I'm useful at level 1 with a pitch fork.  I run into battle with the goal of stopping enemy horses (rearing them) and poking at enemies to help my teammates kill them (stunning them with the hit).  I also will stand next to an archer to help with cav support, and to be their meat shield.

By level 15 or so I'm useful as a ground troop.  And at level 25 I'm a weaker version of my final build, so I'm able to be useful, although everything just takes more hits to kill.  I can get to level 25 in one night of playing.  So you think playing for one or two nights is too much work?  Maybe c-rpg isn't for you then?

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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2012, 09:53:51 pm »
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Seriously, the first few level its very very annoying. Who had this idea to make such a horrible start? I don't have the patience to go on and see if the next levels start to get better, and as a new player I am about to just quit the mod. I have absolutely no chance against anybody, and I am getting killed in one shot, and having stones as ranged weapon and no shield, its insulting honestly.

it sucks, yeah, best thing you can do is be as big a distraction as you can, rear as many horses as possible with the trident, and stab as many people in the back as possible with polearms (1wpf) to begin with ;). Get to ~~ 12 AGI for the 4 ath (if your build allows it), and with peasant clothes you'll be able to out run all the tin cans, combined with having some form of polearm, you can become useful by ~~ level 7 or 8.

Side note, i once saw a friend of mine go 3-1 at level 1 ;). 2H wooden sword ftw.
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2012, 09:57:14 pm »
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Play native if you dont want to be a peasant.

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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2012, 09:58:20 pm »
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Every time I retire I'm useful at level 1 with a pitch fork.  I run into battle with the goal of stopping enemy horses (rearing them) and poking at enemies to help my teammates kill them (stunning them with the hit).  I also will stand next to an archer to help with cav support, and to be their meat shield.

By level 15 or so I'm useful as a ground troop.  And at level 25 I'm a weaker version of my final build, so I'm able to be useful, although everything just takes more hits to kill.  I can get to level 25 in one night of playing.  So you think playing for one or two nights is too much work?  Maybe c-rpg isn't for you then?
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2012, 10:37:31 pm »
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...i did give advice, if he wants to emulate me and get a pitch fork at level 1, he can be useful.  I was simply stating how I am able to be useful, and giving my experience.  I wasn't aware if someone said something similar you can't post in the same thread, if that was the case then 95% of the forums are shit posters.

Here's my hard advice:  start out going for strength first, and get to about 12 strength, then max your agility, and then go back to strength.  If I go agility first, yes, you can out run everyone, but 1 power strike is super super super weak and you glance a lot.  I start getting kills a lot sooner if I go for STR before Agility.  At 1 athletics you can still stay relatively close to the main group, especially the high strength tin-cans that you could be helping support.

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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2012, 11:13:59 pm »
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Thank you, I will try EU_5 then and see how it goes.

Try it, you even level faster there as the multiplier is increased by 1.5x
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2012, 05:27:03 am »
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I don't know why leveling is in the game at all, I don't enjoy it and don't see the need for it.

Totally agree, I don't see a need for it either. 
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2012, 05:03:23 pm »
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Well, that's kinda your fault for leveling that way. You only need 9 str and a mace to start getting a good amount of kills as a shielder. After doing a million gens as a shielder, I've always found it's better to level up evenly, starting with agi first. Athletics is the most important stat for a shielder.

This kinda even for me as a 2h.

I usually get my 10 str so I can use my MW longsword again, then the kills start coming in again :)
After that I go agi until i get to like 15 agi so I can have 5 Ath and such, then back to str, etc....
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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2012, 05:23:44 pm »
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Man, i LIKE being a peasant.  Its such a rare and precious time of life.  Warriors grow up too fast these days.

I like wearing rags, poking knights with a pitchfork, and throwing stones off castle walls in siege.  I like running around, running away, blocking for my fucking life, and typing in all caps "I'M A PEASANT!" and "HELP! I'M BEING OPPRESSED!"

It only lasts a couple hours...its fun and funny.  Don't grow up too fast man...it will be a long time before you get to be a peasant again.

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Re: What was the reasoning behind the peasant start?
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2012, 10:06:34 am »
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The reason is so that filthy peasants no there place. And when I come stomping through covered head to toe in gleaming plate with horse wrapped in the finest armour and cut your head off you have something to aspire to.

Just remember not to dirty my sword too much with your damned peasant blood. If only you people would stay in the fields where you belong.
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