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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 12:38:04 pm »
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I kind of like this. I can see it now, an archer chambers an attack by someone chasing him,and suddenly the archer is chasing the guy with the weapon he disarmed.... Hahahahhahaha
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 12:51:30 pm »
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I kind of like this. I can see it now, an archer chambers an attack by someone chasing him,and suddenly the archer is chasing the guy with the weapon he disarmed.... Hahahahhahaha

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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 12:54:56 pm »
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would be far easier for someone else to disarm the archer with his 0wpf in melee..

Anyway, you guys have probably seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdTB1GzHJw

People fall and grapple each other all the time. This is probably much closer to real medieval combat than what we see in cRPG.
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 12:58:48 pm »
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Maybe, maybe not. It could go back and forth multiple times. Might need more Benny hill music....
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 01:00:40 pm »
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would be far easier for someone else to disarm the archer with his 0wpf in melee..

And so the correct strategy for the archer is to holster the gained melee weapon and keep running.

Perhaps go and hide it and return to shoot at the now impotent melee guy.
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 01:10:12 pm »
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ok so this is theoretically possible, but in order for it to happen some circumstances needs to be in place:

1. use a swing attack in a predictable manner against an unarmed opponent.. (If he would turn into the swing, feint a bit, hold the swing or use some other trickery, it would be excessively difficult to chamber it.)

2. If he would in stead use a thrust or overhead in an easily chamberable manner, the only consequence would be knockdown.

3. How many players chamber a lot in combat anyway? I can recall 1 and thats Darkfox. Combat chambering is already very risky and difficult, more so doing it unarmed...

4. The attacker can clearly see the opponent is unarmed, and thus could be expecting a chamber. He needs to make his preparations.

5. If besides this, some archer manages to make him drop the weapon, he can just pick it up again, if the archer isn't faster..

6. If someone manages to pull off these kinds of chambers, well.. Kudos. They are good players and get rewarded for being that.
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2012, 01:16:19 pm »
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People haven't learned to chamber because it's a risky activity and you win less than half of an attack with it.

If it was this well rewarded, everyone would train to use it.

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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2012, 01:32:51 pm »
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i chamber stabs shit loads of times, sideswings i must say i dont try that much since yes its risky, but thomek plz stop this you are making a fool of yourself, enybody who would really brainstorm on the outcome of this mechanic would know its rediculous, sorry to notice you have stagnated in your skilllevel of crpg, but like vibe said chambering with fists is to eazy for such a big reward, oh and remember YOU CAN FUCKIN HAVE A SHIELD AND FIST U STUPID TWAT HAHAHAHAHA , ok that was a little mean , but i had to do it
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2012, 05:42:04 pm »
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I think a small chance of knockdown/disarming would be great, 100% is stupid ofc, but maybe 10-20% would be fine. 

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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 06:03:55 pm »
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I think this would interfere greatly with the idea of realism.

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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 06:15:53 pm »
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I don't think people running around without weapons should be encouraged. Atleast now I am on the few retards who charges the last man standing with his fists even when I'm alone. Chambering with your fists is not really all that hard anyway. Apart from that I really like it, but its just that people going without weapons is not desirable.

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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2012, 07:22:58 pm »
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I 100% agree and think this is an awesome idea.  I was in two naked battles in strategus defending villages (one AI one for a friendly faction) and the first one we lost, the second we won (when we had literally no weapons, I think it was like 200 vs 200 battle). 
Our side grouped up and would isolate one person, and keep trying to chamber with fists as we gang-punched/kicked him to death.  Once we got the first weapon we started getting more, and then eventually about half way through the enemy ran out of weapons, and we started hoarding them on our side of the map.  We eventually went on to win.

Being able to cause a weapon to drop (or even better, you just grab it) or pushing/pulling the person to the ground would be awesome. 
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2012, 07:49:13 pm »
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This is the best fucking suggestion of all, Thomek!
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2012, 08:02:00 pm »
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Apart from that I really like it, but its just that people going without weapons is not desirable.

But we can keep the rule that everyone needs to have a weapon.. :) This is just a trick to pull out of your sleeve in a fight. Especially if someone pulls your weapon out of your hands!
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Re: Chamber with fist causes knockdown and/or dropped weapon.
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2012, 08:02:58 pm »
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Sometime peasants can chamber my lance with their fists, would be epic to see my horse getting knocked down by this :D