Modern tanks, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

[Bobthehero]

Canada, so I'll be jumping out of a triplane jet using a wooden parachute, only to shoot at bad guys with my potatoe rifle.

And it shall be glorious!

[Torben]

it sucks coz we have fucking thiefs and bundle of stickss in gouverment)

so do 95% of all the other countries

[djavo]

so do 95% of all the other countries

Not iceland, they have lesbians.

[Sir Ryden]

Nobody's mentioned the most important elements: crew and doctrine.

In 1940, French tanks in all categories were superior to their German counterparts, sometimes markedly so. But German tanks swept the French from the field. The reason was that while the Panzer III and IV were inferior in armaments and armor, their crews were better trained and their armored doctrine was superior. Similarly when the Germans invaded Russia, while the T34 was superior, the German crews were veterans by this point and their better tactics and communications gave them victory where on-paper statistics spelled defeat.

With that in mind, consider the Abrams crews versus the crews of a Leopard. Which contains more combat veterans? Which units have fought together in combat? Which larger formations have their logistics base accustomed to repairing battle damage and keeping their vehicles operational?

You really have to give it to the Abrams in this respect.

MODERN. TANKS. BRO, yeah the french had tanks that surpassed the german tanks in both firepower and armor, but late war the germans still had the best tanks.

[Torben]

MODERN. TANKS. BRO, yeah the french had tanks that surpassed the german tanks in both firepower and armor, but late war the germans still had the best tanks.

german tanks had the best suspension and could therefor be heavier and faster, whilst providing a smooth ride,  but allied tanks could shoot whilst moving thanks to gyroscopes,  had a lot higher quality of steel and therefor where more durable...

I guess it isnt as easy and obvious about ww2 tanks as well.  I know a tiger crew member,  and he was pissed because the machine broke down every few hundred meters ^^

[Bobthehero]

There's also the fact that the Sherman could easily be field repaired by their crewmen, that helped.

[Overdriven]

Better target practice for German tanks, yes.

T-34 was also the most reliable tank. Your German tanks would be rotting in a field somewhere with their engine on fire.

There's also the fact that the Sherman could easily be field repaired by their crewmen, that helped.

Sherman's were one of the least reliable so that's probably why  Many vets who were in sherman's swear they are death traps.

[Christo]

T-34 was also the most reliable tank. Your German tanks would be rotting in a field somewhere with their engine on fire.

What. I said nothing about reliability.

[Overdriven]

What. Nobody said a thing about reliability.

I meant German tanks would be the target practice due to breaking down 

[Christo]

I meant German tanks would be the target practice due to breaking down 

German tanks breaking down

Russian poorly trained and radioless tanks

Both sides had some nasty things going on.

[Leesin]

Britland won WW2

[Beauchamp]

obviously the best tank was that british one from WWI as it was the only tank in that period. afterwards nobody can agree on anything since there were more than 1 type and we're on the internet.