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Who would Win?

Former Shogunate
98 (73.7%)
Red Lotus Clan
35 (26.3%)

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Offline Ujio

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Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« on: July 05, 2012, 05:17:58 pm »
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Who do you think would win? The Former Shogunate or the Red Lotus Clan?
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 05:20:02 pm »
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 05:22:45 pm »
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shogunate hands down.
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 05:24:18 pm »
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Byzantium is ex shogunate? They would rape ur ass.

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 05:24:49 pm »
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Could you elaborate? I haven't had a chance to see the Red Lotus in action yet?

Yeah Byzantium is ex-Shogunate, but this poll is about them, when they were Shogunate
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 05:31:11 pm »
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Let's find out.

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 05:56:26 pm »
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 06:06:13 pm »
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excuse me sir

who is red lotus clan?
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 06:40:27 pm »
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excuse me sir

who is red lotus clan?

would like to know that too

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 06:43:20 pm »
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excuse me sir

who is red lotus clan?

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 06:52:54 pm »
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What is this, i don't even..
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 07:00:33 pm »
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The old Shogun clan was - in my opinion - a diluted clan. One that commited the same faults that large clans still make. Once a powerful clan with many warriors, people took a liking to the idea of being in one of the "big boy" clans and proceeded to apply en masse. Naturally, the quality of fighter within the clan eventually declined, as the clan became cumbersome under its own weight.

The only options for the clan was to either dissolve - as so many other large clans have done - or reorganize. They chose to reorganize and clean out the roster of warriors they deemed unworthy of bearing the name (MIA and incompetent fighters). They rallied under the new rule, and are now the Empire of the Romans (Basileia ton Romaion).

Red Lotus, led by (I believe) their lord Shogun Kimiko and their flagship fighter (imo) Sengo Muramasa aka Momento Mori are a vastly smaller clan albeit with very concentrated combat potential. They don't have much history beyond having named and blooded fighters from several different clans. Their combat skill, however, is solid albeit lacking the specific teamwork exemplified by other clans (the old Chaos pikers, Cavelier riders, ATS infantry and hoplites). I think that is simply because of the lack of diversity in their combat ranks. They mostly stay to katanas and nodachis, despite traditional Japanese combat (carried out with polearms, specifically naginatas and other hafted weapons).

In a straight up match between the old Shogunate vs Red Lotus: RL will take many Shogunate fighters down, but will eventually fall to combat attrition. If you're looking at mano-a-mano, RL will decimate most of the old Shogunate fighters, but perhaps not its top ranking warriors.

edit: If RL went clan to clan against the Byzantiums (reformed Shogun), they'd get positively steamrolled due to lack of weapon diversity.

edit2: Didn't vote because it's a pointless poll. You should change it to "Which clans dick would you suck" because it's really just a popularity contest, not any real assessment of combat potential. 
« Last Edit: July 05, 2012, 07:08:23 pm by Dexxtaa »
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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 08:07:24 pm »
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Before deciding I'd have to be reminded what players were in Shogunate at the time and I'd also have to see Red Lotus in action.

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2012, 08:25:38 pm »
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excuse me sir

who is red lotus clan?

They are a somewhat small clan on the NA servers.

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Re: Former Shogunate Vs Red Lotus Clan
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2012, 08:31:14 pm »
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Memento mori would wipe all of them out 1 on 1. Rl is tiny tho. And i would also dare to say mori would wipe majority of euro players easily.
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