How to beat a spamming 2h as a shielder?

[Rhalzo]

Learn how to move with them and keep them in your center view.

Learn to attack as soon as possible. Use right swing sparingly in these situations.

Once you get these, learn to move away from the opponents swing and turn into yours.

I don't rely on shield sound at all and begin my swing right when I know it will block.

San is one bad motherfucker when he has his shield and steel pick. When he gives advice, I listen.

Footwork is the main key as a shielder. Learn how to read the enemies movement and put yourself in a place where you can easily step out of reach and then move in to attack as soon as possible. Left swings are ideal for this (already has been said a lot), they are very fast and have a high chance of slashing the enemy in the face. I may not have as much experience as some of these other posters, but this is what I've learned so far.

[Tindel]

You let high agility characters pay the price of the movement damagebonus.
By stabbing them in the face when they move towards you.

Pre turnspeed nerf, you could do a lolstab spin and hit them in the kidneys as well. This worked on everyone though.

[Banok]

its funny that people are saying its hardest to fight katana with shielder. imo its the opposite, katana is useless vs shielders - unless they are very bad, you can't fient/chamber a decent shielder like you can a manual blocker, so you just have to hit shield 50 times  . longer weapons and backpeddle is a much  better counter to shielder imo. katana is basically a 1h without shield and worse animations - so I find shielders complaining about fighting it very ironic  .

[Penitent]

its funny that people are saying its hardest to fight katana with shielder. imo its the opposite, katana is useless vs shielders - unless they are very bad, you can't fient/chamber a decent shielder like you can a manual blocker, so you just have to hit shield 50 times  . longer weapons and backpeddle is a much  better counter to shielder imo. katana is basically a 1h without shield and worse animations - so I find shielders complaining about fighting it very ironic  .

Well I can fight pretty much any other class and feel comfortable I have a good chance at winning except when some guy with 8 athletics come zooming up at me and swatting at my shield with his stick faster than a fly blinks.  It's not katanas that are hard to face, but agi characters with high wpf and decently fast weapons.

I will face shield breakers all day.  Hell, I love fighting mauls/long mauls!  I think its fun and I win much of the time.  But those "ninjas" are the tricky ones for me.  Not impossible, but a pain in the ass.

[Turkhammer]

Turkhammer a hold is when you have an attack ready and you just "hold" it (not blocking)
This is a game of chicken, a timing game...NOT advisable with a bad ping

I am a 2h (21/21 MW Longsword) and I often do holds especially left swing because of the long reach of that swing, the second someone thinks they have a shot and lower their block or go for an attack themselves, I will release and go for the face.  Bursting forward with 7 ATH helps in this.

Anyhow that's what they are talking about.

Thanks Elindor.  That makes sense.

[Turkhammer]

Well I can fight pretty much any other class and feel comfortable I have a good chance at winning except when some guy with 8 athletics come zooming up at me and swatting at my shield with his stick faster than a fly blinks.  It's not katanas that are hard to face, but agi characters with high wpf and decently fast weapons.

I will face shield breakers all day.  Hell, I love fighting mauls/long mauls!  I think its fun and I win much of the time.  But those "ninjas" are the tricky ones for me.  Not impossible, but a pain in the ass.

Maybe I don't have enough Ath.  I can never get out of those maulers way!

[Penitent]

Maybe I don't have enough Ath.  I can never get out of those maulers way!

Sometimes I can't get out of the way either.
I have 6 athletics.

The trick is to avoid the overhead.  The side swings I can block all day...they never crush through.  If they are going for the top swing, move away OR move forward and to the side to dodge.  Or poke them in the tummy with a thrust and out-range them.

[Teeth]

its funny that people are saying its hardest to fight katana with shielder. imo its the opposite, katana is useless vs shielders - unless they are very bad, you can't fient/chamber a decent shielder like you can a manual blocker, so you just have to hit shield 50 times

No, most shielders will actually try to kill you aswell, which means that your feints can actually lure them into an attack while its not their turn. If you as a katana user fight them properly, there is few weapons that are as good against shielders. You can hiltslash em all day long.