How to beat a spamming 2h as a shielder?

[Turkhammer]

Topic says it all.  No matter how I feint or maneuver, the 2h spammers always seem to beat me to the draw in melee.  They seem to get in 2 strikes to my one.  They hit the shield and when I try to strike back they can spam fast enough to hit me before I can retaliate.

[TurmoilTom]

Experience tells me that if someone can get 2 consecutive hits on you before you can connect yours, it's either your footwork, your ping, or your reaction time.

The best advice I can think of right now, though, is to left swing. A lot. And by a lot I mean a ton. And by a ton I mean until the sun sets... Three times.

[Turkhammer]

Ok, I'll get on a duel server and give it a try.  I think it's my timing.  With other shielders I just strike when I hear them hit the shield.  That doesn't work with 2h.

[agile]

I agree with tom.

[Smoothrich]

Ok, I'll get on a duel server and give it a try.  I think it's my timing.  With other shielders I just strike when I hear them hit the shield.  That doesn't work with 2h.

TurmoilTom already beat anyone with 1hand experience, but yeah.  Spam left swings, and strafe to the enemy right.  It is the most broken animation, and you can quadruple hit shielders or 2handers or any class with a fast weapon and good footwork, endlessly spamming left swing without blocking or any other interruption.

[Vibe]

It's just footwork, really. Turning into the swing more might help as well.

[San]

Learn how to move with them and keep them in your center view.

Learn to attack as soon as possible. Use right swing sparingly in these situations.

Once you get these, learn to move away from the opponents swing and turn into yours.

I don't rely on shield sound at all and begin my swing right when I know it will block.

[Digglez]

using short holds against spammers generally works wonders.  they realize you are going to hold attacks so they cant spam. they'll just start feinting seizure mode so you can walk away and let someone else kill them.

[Vkvkvk]

using short holds against spammers generally works wonders.  they realize you are going to hold attacks so they cant spam. they'll just start feinting seizure mode so you can walk away and let someone else kill them.

Feinting and Holding against a spammer will actually get you killed. Holds are only good against someone that tap-blocks or chambers.

If he gets hit before he gets a hit off, holding will do the exact opposite of helping him.

By spam he means someone continually attacking without ever blocking or stopping, not someone with an aggressive playstyle like the situation you're saying that holding is good against.

[Herkkutatti666]

spam back? left swing combo.

[Visconti]

Holding against spammers will probably get you killed, as people have already said, just work on your footwork and reaction time, and getting spammed wont really be an issue. The left to right swing is also incredibly powerful with 1hs, so use that alot as well. Also, if you've just been hit by an enemy, dont try to attack right after, unless you have some amazing footwork.

[Phew]

I'm on my 6th gen as a shielder and I still have this problem. I've determined it's related to positioning; good 2h-ers always try to stay just off your right shoulder. That's the "dead zone" for 1h; there is nothing you can do to someone there. If you left swing, it takes forever to get there and will probably glance when it does. Right swing will definitely glance, overhead used to be an option (albeit a risky one) before the turn speed change, now that's generally suicide also. Thrust is also out once you are in facehug range (the preferred domain for 2h; go figure).

2h has no such "dead zone", but you should at least battle to keep them positioned off your left shoulder, which is the only location from which you can hiltlash as a 1h-er. You can also sometimes execute a right swing against someone on your left shoulder if you turn left fast enough during the swing, but generally right swing is a bad idea against anyone that is aware of you (too slow and prone to glancing).

In general, if you find yourself turning right for most of the fight as a 1h-er, you are probably screwed. If you are turning left, you are probably positioned correctly to use your one good swing animation. I try to find obstacles (walls on siege, for instance) that I can hug with my right side to keep people from getting in my dead zone. Must be nice to be 2h and being equally deadly from any position!

[Zanze]

Your shield is your fortress, behind it you are safe until your walls are breached. Stop playing tennis, pick a time and place and fight back. Turn as much as you need to and use your left swing. You are FASTER than he is and he must yield to you. Reaction time is everything.

[Mlekce]

Yeah i get usualy outspammed buy 2h,but it is because they have more agility then i have. So you should change ur build, and get mw sword. I reccomend KAS,NCS or elite scimitar.
With this and little expirience,and fast shield you should spam them easily.
My current build is 21/15 and that 5 athl is realy pain in the ass in battle,so you need just to follow someone and help him,because alone you don't have much chance.

[Mlekce]

what i need to learn is how to counter ppl who use husacarl shield and mw spear. They are moust annoying,hard hitting class in this game.
Somehow they meange to hit you from any position,from any angle and they hit pretty hard. Face hugging and left spamm seems to do the job,but not always work.
Sultan dude and king glype are hardest to kill.