Fatigue for shield?

[Mala]

I think this game has too easy system for shielders, it is just turtle, turtle, turtle, turtle, swing, turtle, turtle, turtle, turtle, swing and so on, so i came up with an idea. Fatigue for shielders, so they can only block certain amount of swings, before their arm gets tired, depending on a) shield skill, b) shield weight, c) str and weapon weight of the attacker, d) shielders str.

What do you think?

K, and for feinting and holding an attack as well.

[Haze_The_Hobo]

[Haze_The_Hobo]

K, and for feinting and holding an attack as well.

Yes this also, very good point!

[rustyspoon]

Also, I think at the start of the battle all shielders should automatically commit suicide for the shame of carrying a shield instead of using a 2hander like A REAL MAN.

[Haze_The_Hobo]

Also, I think at the start of the battle all shielders should automatically commit suicide for the shame of carrying a shield instead of using a 2hander like A REAL MAN.

Again more retarded people, can't even discuss, cuz it is not the way they want it.

This is suggestion corner and i can post any idea that i come up with. If you want to trashtalk, make a thread in the spam section!

[Herkkutatti666]

Buff cudgel

[rustyspoon]

Again more retarded people, can't even discuss, cuz it is not the way they want it.

No, we're mocking your ridiculous idea.

The thing with shields is 95% of the people who use them are terrible and easy to beat. You could probably count the number of good NA shielders on 1 hand.

There are also many ways to counter them already. You could:

• Get a shield breaker. They are only 2 slots. Easy to carry.
• Just circle them. They are slow as hell while carrying a shield.
• Get a heavy weapon and shield stun them.
• Get a crushthrough weapon.
• Just use a held attack. Because they have a shield, shielders telegraph their attacks.
• Kick them.
• Hilt slash. Lot easier to do with a 2hander than a 1hander.

Not to mention that if it's not a steel shield or a huscarl, a str build can bust through a shield pretty quick with a sword.

Why do they need another pointless mechanic to counter them?

[Haze_The_Hobo]

[oohillac]

Go play 2h hero somewhere else.  Shields are fine, Rusty makes good points.

[rustyspoon]

Haven't you already noticed, this is suggestion corner, they are looking for new ideas here..

Geez stop posting here retard or read what i have said earlier.

I am not asking for old already discovered methods, but to bring in a new totally different one with a random chance in it, since life after all is an continuous event of random happenings.

You're right, it is the suggestions corner. Since it is the suggestions corner, it is open to discussion and counter arguments. Putting up a post here doesn't make you immune to criticism, it invites it.

You're also trying to go with a "realistic" argument that blocking with a shield will tire you faster. You do know that shields are used to deflect attacks, not block them, right? If you're blocking with a shield you're not taking full strength hits on the arm. You move your shield in order to deflect attacks to cause them to glance off the surface. Thereby protecting your arm/hand underneath.

I also don't like fatigue systems in general because they'll just slow down an already slow game. I like to believe that all of the combatants in this game are well-trained and don't get exhausted after fighting for 4 minutes.

[Haze_The_Hobo]

[rustyspoon]

As i said before, you couldn't even block/reflect 2 swings with your physical fit. So yes this should be realistic, also as i said before i am looking for new things, not old methods already discoverd and this is what you are only offering.

Most people playing this game are so physically uncabaple, that you couldn't even hold shield up 10secs, do you know why? Cuz that takes hell alot of power.

And no Rusty, playing and watching the forums doesn't grow your physical strength, even if you think that in your mind. Moving the mouse is totally wrong movement for that.

How many old wars you have specced? I know those guys were strong, but not that strong they could keep up shield whole time.

I mean if i can't do it for long, i am 100% certain you can't.

Probably shouldn't be feeding into this delusional thread anymore, but here goes:

SHIELDS WERE NOT THAT HEAVY. In the time period that this game takes place, shields were relatively light. If a shield is too damn heavy, you can't move it around to defend yourself. I have a feeling that you're also one of those people who think that a sword weighs 8 lbs.

No warrior would take something into battle that was too heavy for him to use. He'd just be asking to get killed. Even an incredibly light shield can block a sword all day long.

I don't know where you get this crazy idea that people were carrying around shields that were too heavy for them to lift.

[Fuma Kotaro]

FREE STR_RAT

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Hazaa you hobo get it your idea  isn't good don't discuss about it

[Digglez]

I think this game has too easy system for 2h, it is just swing, swing, swing, swing, swing and so on, so i came up with an idea. Fatigue for 2h, so they can only swing certain amount of swings, before their arm gets tired, depending on a) 2h WPF, b) weapon weight, c) str and weapon weight of the attacker, d) 2h constitution stat

What do you think?

[Joseph Porta]

Tbh a good shielder, not talking about myself, wont "turtle turtle turtle turtle, swing" he will attack more unless, ofcourse, he is ganked and thus forced to do so..

Nah