Katana vs. other swords

[UrLukur]

Khorin likes his easy mode, just it. True, katana is more expensive than bastard and longsword, but is better than both. 3/4 speed for 6 reach makes the difference. Ideally, Katana would have 100 speed tops.

[zagibu]

What? The main purpose of Ninjas is to act secretly. You've blown your cover now .

[Ninja_Khorin]

Khorin likes his easy mode, just it. True, katana is more expensive than bastard and longsword, but is better than both. 3/4 speed for 6 reach makes the difference. Ideally, Katana would have 100 speed tops.

Exaggerating doesn't help your cause. It's 3 speed for 6 reach and 5 pierce(bastard vs. katana) or 4 speed for 11 length and 7 pierce. Speed is the katanas only advantage
When will you understand that the reason katana wielders are fast is because of their build more than the weapon.
For reference, here is my build:

Level 30
Strength   15   
Agility   25   

One Handed   1   [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed   172   [12 WPF cost]
Polearm   1   [1 WPF cost]
Archery   1   [1 WPF cost]
Crossbow   1   [1 WPF cost]
Throwing   1   [1 WPF cost]

Ironflesh   0   
Power Strike   5   
Shield   0   
Athletics   8   
Riding   0   
Horse Archery   0   
Power Draw   0   
Power Throw   0   
Weapon master *   8

And zagibu, on the battlefield I am but one ninja among many. Or maybe a peasant ;)

[UrLukur]

It have also more cut damage than bastard. And your build only proves that 2h have not only various advantages over 1h when, but also more effective build ...

[Ninja_Khorin]

Oh you're right. 1 point more cut.
And you are discussing a different topic now. The topic you should be in is 7 threads below mine I believe. Anyway I tried spamming chimp, i.e. me standing in front of him still and he standing in front of me still and I attack first and start spamming. He interrupted my attack every time. He had a shield, 160 1h wpf and an espada or side sword or sumthin'. He can't be spammed except by his own mistake.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Oh also:

I was on the duel server just a few minutes ago, I got a KD of like 70/6, 40 of those were done with a 1h sword with 0wfp and 21 agility, slow as hell. I still beat 95% of the people I faced, including ninjas with katanas, stimpy with 24 agility, 170wfp and staff, Longsword wielding agi-based light armor types, etc. etc.

I'm not sure what you people are complaining about.

He beat me. I couldn't spam him either.
EDIT: Except when he wore black armour. But I'm not sure if I spammed him to death or if his weapon bounced, was experimenting a little. ;)

[UrLukur]

Oh also:He beat me. I couldn't spam him either.
EDIT: Except when he wore black armour. But I'm not sure if I spammed him to death or if his weapon bounced, was experimenting a little. ;)

1h no shield ? whats the point in 1h with no shield when 2h and poles are superior?

Also, speed of katana make it very difficult to feint with shield against it.

[Ninja_Khorin]

1h no shield ? whats the point in 1h with no shield when 2h and poles are superior?

Also, speed of katana make it very difficult to feint with shield against it.

Good job skipping my other post.
Then again blocking is a lot easier.
EDIT: Also, I think the total loss of 1h wpf compensates for the absense of shield.

[Babelfish]

1h no shield ? whats the point in 1h with no shield when 2h and poles are superior?

Also, speed of katana make it very difficult to feint with shield against it.

Woooosh

[UrLukur]

Good job skipping my other post.
Then again blocking is a lot easier.
EDIT: Also, I think the total loss of 1h wpf compensates for the absense of shield.

You got outskilled, killed by inferior weapon. WHy i skipped ? he play 1h no shield.

[Ninja_Khorin]

You got outskilled, killed by inferior weapon. WHy i skipped ? he play 1h no shield.

1h with no wpf and you admit that skill is what matters and that spamming is impossible.
I'm done.
And you skipped this:

Oh you're right. 1 point more cut.
And you are discussing a different topic now. The topic you should be in is 7 threads below mine I believe. Anyway I tried spamming chimp, i.e. me standing in front of him still and he standing in front of me still and I attack first and start spamming. He interrupted my attack every time. He had a shield, 160 1h wpf and an espada or side sword or sumthin'. He can't be spammed except by his own mistake.

[UrLukur]

1h with no wpf and you admit that skill is what matters and that spamming is impossible.
I'm done.
And you skipped this:

21 agi. Footwork can save against spam, i bet it does in phyrex case.

Also, i'm sure chimp have wpf in 1h, what are you trying to say ?

Moreover: NO SHIELD. It matters in spam.

[Fasader]

This +1 speed really bums you that much? It's hardly noticeable, 1 point is nothing to get that upset about.

okay, katana back to 101 then.

bastard sword price to 3k.

everyone happy? Y/N?

[Ninja_Khorin]

21 agi. Footwork can save against spam, i bet it does in phyrex case.

Also, i'm sure chimp have wpf in 1h, what are you trying to say ?

Moreover: NO SHIELD. It matters in spam.

Read the quote above you again. Chimp had a shield and 160 wpf in 1h.

Fasader of course I'm not happy if you nerf the katana. I said hardly noticeable. But it's still noticeable. And since a shielder can clearly not be spammed unless going full strength and throwing or something the only thing a nerf would do would make it easier to block for polearms and 2handers because a shielder shouldn't have much issue blocking.
And good players can block the katana without problem.

[Ishar]

Moreover: NO SHIELD. It matters in spam.

Well, shields slow you down. No shit.