ARROWS HIT SYSTEM [Fixed] AND WHY INCREASE XBOW DAMAGE ???

[Blackbow]

about arrows :
since the last update something changed with arrows !!
there is like a random system to give chance to arrows, when u hit someone to do damage/stun or not ...

i'm lvl 34 with 183 archery and mw rus / horn / long + mw bodkin
and now when i shot someone in plate,mail or cloth somethimes the arrow do nothing
the arrow do no damage and dont stun ... i'm feeling like an archer lvl 2 with simple arrows and short bow

two example :
- one night ago an archer shot me with longbow + tatar and the arrow didnt do any damage and i dont get stun ... wtf ???
- i shot rufio's shield (he have 1 skill shield) and the arrows hit i hear the sound like when an archer lvl one try to shot a guy in plate
so that mean no damage, no stun

i never saw this before at my level (ofc it happend at low level)
i checked the patch log and saw nothing about this so wtf ? it's an other hide nerf of archery ???

about the jump shot u remove it, then now u add it again .... admins forgot to remove it ???

about xbow damage :
it's me or xbow got increased damage ???
in past i wore an armor with 16 bodie armor all guy with mw arbalest + mw steel bolts was able to one shot me ...
so i changed armor for a better one with 28 armor (tribal warior outfit +1) before the patch i was still alive after one shot (mw arba+mw bolt)

since last patch i get one shot again ... and now with last patch everybody wear an xbow imo that fuck the gameplay and the weak balance of this mod !!!

just for info : in real life an xbow is very powerfull at low and middle range then damage decrease at long range ... imo xbow are still to powerfull (and easymode) at long range ... 

solution :
imo just remove the new random hit system for arrows, or increase chance of hit for high lvl/wpf archer because it's a no sense
and put back damage of all xbow like they was in past ... and for better balance class maybe add power draw to xbow =)
i dont understand why decrease archery for up xbow in same time ...

so i'm asking to Range comunity and game devs what happened ?

to all infantries who cant understand my point of view just imagine :
it's like somethimes u hit a peasant guy in face with a mw flamberge with a full strengh/ps build but u have a random chance than the hit do nothing ... boring no ???

sry for my bad english

cordially your favorit pimp
FIXED :

Found and fixed two ranged bugs in the new server software:
- arrow damage type wasn't applied (i.e. bodkins were utter shit)
- missile speed was calculated wrong

I'll notify you when the update is applied so you can check if there are other anomalies.

Edit: updates are now live.

thx to cmp and devs team =)

[PieParadox]

Removing arrowstun after polestun is the only logical choice!!

[dreadnok]

because xbows should hit harder? they should tho require skill to be used.

[Blackbow]

because xbows should hit harder? they should tho require skill to be used.

an other example :
i love when a guy with 0 in xbow head shot me and add a comment
i always answer him : try to head shot someone with 0 in archery...
if u have the luck to hit his head u will never kill him ...

[matt2507]

I just do not say too much for bows because I'm 2h but I was witness to this and there is clearly a problem.

I completely agree for crossbows, it is completely incense to make as many damage with no points in crossbow while all other classes must specialize it.

Required to use the PowerDraw seems the best option.

[Herkkutatti666]

IRL xbow does more dmg and is Easier to use

[Smoothrich]

bring back the all ranged damage is reduced by 1/3, one of the only intelligent things the balance team has done in this game, then they inexplicably rolled it back within days, while leaving the bonus damage to head shots even.

also, all throwing damage should be reduced by 1/2 and have 1/2 the accuracy, throwing is secret OP, every thrower who isn't a liar knows it

rus bow archery is by far the most OP broken shit in this game, any thread that asks to buff them is a bad joke

[Adamar]

IRL the crossbow is better than the bow in everything exept fire rate and long range accuracy.

Bow damage is indeed random. Put an end to it.

bring back the all ranged damage is reduced by 1/3, one of the only intelligent things the balance team has done in this game, then they inexplicably rolled it back within days

One of their biggest mistakes, they nerfed high damaging/low accuracy builds for some insane headshot buff, archery was broken, the servers got cav spammed and all of this was made clear in the forums during those days. The team fixed it back for ballance sake, it wasn't inexplicable, unexpected or unjustified. Repeating the same mistake would be really stupid.

[Leshma]

Your shoothing is random too.

Archery is weak atm but I think that it should be weak against armored targets. Ignore armor flag it had for a long time is pure bullshit.

[isatis]

bring back the all ranged damage is reduced by 1/3, one of the only intelligent things the balance team has done in this game, then they inexplicably rolled it back within days, while leaving the bonus damage to head shots even.

also, all throwing damage should be reduced by 1/2 and have 1/2 the accuracy, throwing is secret OP, every thrower who isn't a liar knows it

rus bow archery is by far the most OP broken shit in this game, any thread that asks to buff them is a bad joke

smooth... thorwing ain't OP at all

with my mw throwing lance + 9 pd I can't even one hit everyone!!! sometime it take TWO lance to kill someone!!!!
you imagine???

instead of going 4-0 like it should be I go 3-0 :O

I think we all agree a buff is needed...

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seriously, I think it should be reconsider, accuracy in throwing don't change a thing I got a reticula as big as a nickel and I can long shot usually because there is almost no random factor like arrow so after a while you realize it,s always the same thing! LAZER!!

[Adamar]

Your shoothing is random too.

Not the human component of shooting, for sure! I personaly work my ass off for my hits and very rarely I get a kill. Now it's even more likely for archers to kill tincans with retarded melee than with range. Luckely 80% of meleers are spoiled noobs, so we do have a chance in the rare event of a duel.

[Aleskander]

Archery is fine right now
Crossbows are fine right now
Twohanders are fine right now
Polearms are fine right now
One-handers are fine right now
Cav are fine right now, inf just suck

Leave everything alone

[CrazyCracka420]

I actually like that either some or all of the xbow/arrow stun has stopped.  It was ridiculous when I was about to stab a horse xbow, my lance is full thrust and 1/4" from their face, but their bolt touched me so my lance disappears.  I got killed by a horse xbow yesterday as my lance was about to hit their face, and it allowed a simultaneous kill of the xbow as well (from my lance).  I thought it was pretty nifty. 

[Penitent]

OH MY GOSH EVERYTHING IS CHANGED SO FAST I THINK I"M GONNA BE SICK

[Andswaru]

Achery felt overnerved since they took away my lovely pierce damage on the longbow.. made the longbow the most overpriced bow ever in the game.