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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2012, 03:52:27 pm »
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I could be anything but not a priest. Religion is the last thing I would give a shit about. :)

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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2012, 03:53:00 pm »
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I understood.

AoE I was so epic. Good old times.  :cry:
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2012, 05:10:08 pm »
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berenger is a turkish & finnish & french & gay swedish abomination.

And your country is so poor and shitty you see turks everywhere trying to run across borders. We laugh at them. look down at them.

If you say the holocaust didnt exist, it is a direct insult to all jews and at the same time you support a thought you shouldnt support, exactly what is racist. That is not considered an opinion and after it actually happened in Germany you must understand that we have more strict rules regarding that.

We do however have a freedom of speech as long as it doesnt harm anyone else. ;)
That is actually common sense.

Anyhow it doesnt really matter, as long as you didnt visit every country in the world you cannot say it is the best world, at least not in an objective view (though no one does that anyway).
People in every country say that they love their home but Americans are even more in love with their country.
It has to be. :)

Yeah it's the same in Sweden and it's bad... Immigrants rob/rape/kill swedes.. the majority of prisoners are immigrants. alot of them live on welfare. and we continue to take in more and more. and if you complain about it media calls you a chocolate chip cookie who wants to exterminate all jews and who is mentally ill. I don't care if people deny the holocaust. I know it happend but everyone have the right to their own opinion. And Germany today is 10 times worse than Sweden.. History is repeating itself people are not learning from their mistakes.  And one thing that bothers me is women who supports immigration and all that bullshit. Do they even know what will happen if muslims becomes a majority (which they will if it continue like this) Islam is a mans religion. only the women will be affected by this still they support it.. I will personally get 10 wifes and have them as sex slaves. And beat them from time to time. and no one can do anything about it.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2012, 07:46:09 pm »
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I would actually like the USA if they didn't worship their flag as a god and other overly patriotic bullshit.
I'm not sure how many of the stereotypes regarding education and weight of US citizens are true so I'll leave that out. Oh and also, the media.
With all these things considered the UK is still my favourite English-speaking country.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2012, 08:32:33 pm »
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Also wtf Overdriven!? US girls accent are f'n sexy.

Hell no. They always sound whiny and annoying even when being dead serious.

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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2012, 10:15:54 pm »
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Okay, what other country would you want to compare US to? North Korea? Iran? Middle Eastern countries where there's strict shariah laws? Germany where you can't express freedom as you want it really (won't go into details with it). Just gonna say WW2. Maybe Russia where  they put people who protest INTO JAIL! And beat up protesting people.

I'm sure we in the US enjoy life without some of the oppression you would find in other countries, but to call it true freedom is a complete joke. The only true freedom is living remotely in the wilderness.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2012, 12:17:51 am »
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I'm sure we in the US enjoy life without some of the oppression you would find in other countries, but to call it true freedom is a complete joke. The only true freedom is living remotely in the wilderness.

You got a point there but compared to every other country (most of em) it's a country with ''true freedom''.

Also living in wilderness? I don't think the majority of the population would appreciate that and having to take care of most/every stuff there is to do by yourself and perhaps living almost as a hermit.


I'd say the majority finds that a bit appaling lol.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2012, 01:11:50 am »
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I lived in the USA, and although Berenger is very welcome to his opinions, I would never go back. I currently live in England, and cant wait to GTFO, for the same reasons I would never return to the US. It's a horrible right-wing (No, I'm not a Red, or a "liberal" or a Left-wing nut) police state that reminds me of the saying "The greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing people he doesnt excist" but in reverse: The goverment, school system, mainstream media all continually pound out this bullshit that they live in a free country, with great liberties, great opportunities, great industry, great morals, great schools, etc. They dont. It's horrible. The people are ignorant, and cherish a culture of ignorance, the great majority...well, heres a thought:
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Back to topic: The VAST majority of the population of the US is simply parasitic. Same thing in the UK where I am now. They dont create anything of value, they dont try to expand human understanding, nor do they help to sustain the human race thru any kind of agriculture. They poke their friends on facebook. They watch trash tv, listen to shit music, think a book is used to adorn the coffee table, have little to no understanding of 1/ history and where they came from 2/ how the world views them, sociopolitically 3/ the basic facts of geography 4/ simple physical dynamics 5/ their own and other people's subconscious.  They just go about their day doing ultimatly pointless tasks, while they pay taxes for no representation of their opinions by their goverment, because they havent taken the time to form any opinions. They just dont care. They have been fed bullshit since birth and have never stopped to question why they pay to support a massively overbloated parasitic buerocracy that reallistically at NO point will ever support their best interests.

New Zealand....now that looks like a free country.

Back to topic. In most western societies we REALLY are living in 1984. I dont much care, I have nothing to hide in my personal life. Hell, I dont even have curtains in my apt. and it's in the city center. But I grew up in the country, I have lived homeless, I have seen every continent except the 2 cold ones, and I can tell you that I really wouldnt mind if someone put a match to everything we have ever created and whiped us off the face of the planet, since we are doing nothing positive for it, or ourselves to be blatantly honest. And the forerunner, the "Leader of the Free World", the number one big dog boss of all our mindless self indulgent bullshit is the USA. A goverment where your votes literally dont mean anything yet they are all convinved they do, where they believe everyone can life the dream if they work hard enough, yet everything is down to who you know and how much you can afford, where are still fighting imperialist wars and passing reactionary laws while they profess to support individualism, where their controlling 3% blatantly only aim at their continuance at monopolisation of cash and control, yet those most in need of change are the most ardent defenders of the system that keeps them at the bottom....fuck, I cant even be bothered, 20 years I have been trying to change people on a personal level, to examine themselves, their subconscious drive, their willingness to be lied to, to examine their history, to see what is obvious.

If you think the USA is a great nation, go read the book "The ragged-trousered philanthropists" and tell me the world has changed in the last 100 years. We have the means to all be happy, but we would rather continue to rut in shit like pigs. I hate us, I hate all of us, and I wish I could see how to show you all why...

It doesnt matter though, its just like in Megaman, the ppl know that it could be better deep down in their insides, but they wont ever stand up.

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As to the US military being any good....well, that's laughable that I wont warrent it with a response. Playstation Generation hooked on drugs with no other option arent really supersoldiers.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2012, 01:43:15 am »
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New Zealand....now that looks like a free country.

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If you think the USA is a great nation, go read the book "The ragged-trousered philanthropists" and tell me the world has changed in the last 100 years. We have the means to all be happy, but we would rather continue to rut in shit like pigs. I hate us, I hate all of us, and I wish I could see how to show you all why...

It doesnt matter though, its just like in Megaman, the ppl know that it could be better deep down in their insides, but they wont ever stand up.

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As to the US military being any good....well, that's laughable that I wont warrent it with a response. Playstation Generation hooked on drugs with no other option arent really supersoldiers.

Hey man...way to generalise. Though I'd agree with you for a significant proportion of that. The one thing that does annoy me about the UK is any institution is to 'guilty' over the empire to warrant doing anything remotely worth while ever again. Instead they spin it all up in bureaucracy and go 'urrrrm lets just sit here and enjoy what we got as a remnants of that time' whilst half the population lives off the welfare state and the other spend their time in worthless service sector jobs. However, at the same time I'd still rather live here than the majority of countries in the world.

I will agree on the NZ front. One of my best friends went to University there and now lives there. The things I hear make me supremely jealous.

Not to mention the US military has done nothing of worth for a very long time. Hanging on the 'zomg we are the best cause of 70 years ago' thing got old a long time ago. I'd love to see how they'd do now in a real war...not that I want a real war (nukes and all).

Anyway...on some level I agree with you. But I am far to laid back and optimistic to let it bother me. Instead I am happy to just enjoy life as it comes and let the world fuck itself over around me. Let the other several billion people try to do something about it if they must.

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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2012, 01:53:19 pm »
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When you're a misanthrope worrying about stuff like that is pointless, Blindguy. Even if the US was as awesome as they believe themselves to be you would still loathe the fuck out of them. Because you hate people. If your definition of parasitic is "doesn't advance the cause of humankind" (which is super vague) then maybe 0.001 percent or something of all the humans who have ever been born weren't parasites. Life itself is parasitic. Deal with it.

If you think there is no difference between today and a hundred years ago, you might have missed two little events called the world wars. In addition to the  radio, television and the internet the existence of "weapons of mass destruction" have made total war obsolete, impossible even. If you think that isn't a massive change, it's because you have the luxury of philosophizing about it while not dying in a mudfilled trench. It's no mystery why the only wars the US have been involved in since the Korean one have been assymetrical.
And calling the modern world identical to 1984 while sitting in the comfort of your home, posting dissenting and rebellious opinions on an internet forum for a video game is kind of ironic. If any country is inching closer to it it's certainly the UK though, so you are forgiven for your exaggeration.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2012, 02:58:08 pm »
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I like living in Latvia, when I was a kid (about 6 or 7 years) me and friends used to throw rocks at bums.
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2012, 03:00:50 pm »
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712361872 years in prison for some weed.

Or 1 year or no prison at all for big crimes in Europe. What's better?

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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2012, 04:24:22 pm »
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Or 1 year or no prison at all for big crimes in Europe. What's better?
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
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Re: why berenger loves USA USA USA so much?
« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2012, 05:56:51 pm »
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Oberyn: No, prior to "civilisation", almost entire population was not parasitic, because they had to create their livelihood. While I am fully aware of the comforts I live with, I dont take them for granted, and I'm not rebellious. Rebel against what? Basic human greedy nature? No, there can be no revolution, by its very definition, revolution is pointless since it means to spin: everything comes round to the same thing again.

The world changing: Sure there were 2 world wars. They havent changed the world, read the book I suggested, and you will see I am not talking about the lines on the map changing, but the basic facts of life and humans: They mostly get the shit end of the stick but if you point it out to them they call you a revolutionary, a red, a socialist, just as you did. You kinda proved my point.

I waste my time on this forum for a game because I play games now in my free time, I DID seeing the world, I DID trying to change people, and it didnt work. For ten years I marched, protested injustices, physically fought for what I believed. When I was 18 I did what in English was called National Service, I saw action with the UN, I saw the horrors of the 3rd world, the uncaring nature of people in the 1st world, I saw the results of conflict and genocidal war/ethnic cleansing, and I think I did all I could at every turn, all I was allowed to do. Legally I cannot tell you were I was.

But, as I said, people dont want to know. When Israel bombed 3 UN peacekeeping and aid collumns a few years ago I seethed with rage that they were allowed to get away scot free with it, just because they own the World Bank, but noone I spoke to even seemed to care, and that was the straw that broke the camels back.. I wore that blue helmet and I tried to fix the world, I counter-marched infront of the Mosques in Washington and was involved in the running street battles that ensued when we tried to protect the Muslims who worshipped there from being murdered in front of their church by the American chocolate chip cookie party activists: What did I get? Jailed by the police who stood by and let the fascists fucks do what they wanted, and once we saw them off they rounded US up instead because they knew we wouldnt fight back, since they "represent the law", and we were hailed in the news as "Inciting" the riots, because we tried to let people worship what they believed in peace and safety. Not even the very people we had just shed blood for would come forward and speak in our defence.

Dont tell me I'm exaggerating. I don't discuss things I dont understand, of all the things in the world I may be, I am not a hipocrite.

But I am not so young anymore, or so willing to risk my life for the protection of others. As stated in other parts of this forum, I am an anarchist now. I KNOW I have the strengh and the knowhow to protect MY family, MY loved ones. I will do that no matter what comes, but as to all of you? Stand for your own rights, I tried to protect them for you, and you all told me to fuck off.

It's bullshit btw. I still care...I'm almost in tears now thinking about how people are.
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