Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)

[Bobthehero]

Give a bonus damage to a player if:

He has at the very least 75 wpf in 1h, no wpf in 2h or polearm or both, no shield skill, possibly no riding too.

This would also buff the archer melee capacities a bit, with a bit of dedication, so they could still pew pew and fight okay-ish in melee.

This would also buff me a bit, so do it.

[Lange]

One handed only is faster than anything else there is. That should be sufficient.

[bruce]

Ye buff swashbucklers implement bucklers.

[Molly]

Give a bonus damage to a player if:

He has at the very least 75 wpf in 1h, no wpf in 2h or polearm or both, no shield skill, possibly no riding too.

This would also buff the archer melee capacities a bit, with a bit of dedication, so they could still pew pew and fight okay-ish in melee.

This would also buff me a bit, so do it.

+1
I actually like this idea. Sacrificing a lot to get those bonuses, it wouldn't even be unfair.
No shield, no reach, block stagger... 1h-only is already pretty gimped. And the speed argument is useless considering how fast some people are even able to spam a Flamberge (Yes, talking to you, Lennu!)

[Lange]

And the speed argument is useless considering I can't make use of it for shit.

Fixed.

[Molly]

Fixed.

Cuz I refuse to left swing spam like most HRE guys? Yes.

[bruce]

You can use a shield with it. Buff archery to buff shields! 

[Zisa]

The biggest problems I find with swashbucklers:
animations.
Blocking - character leans to the side like she has a cramp or a congenital defect. This is the worst for me.

Attacking - unlike 2handed (sort of, some of you guys are trying to kill this) the animations do not really flow and seem choppy (as do polearms) when chaining attacks or feinting.

Damage - ok if you decide that the speed of the character makes up for being somewhat of a flyweight. Double Jeopardy though, odds are good you will glance, which ruins what little damage there is without interrupting the incoming attack from a pole arm or 2 hander. This means your speed is again, mostly useless. And thanks to the speed bonus type of malus, if you dare to back even one iota you increase the chance of getting a glance (and probably eating a polearm or 2handed weapon).
Ponder this.

[bruce]

The biggest advantage of 1hs is that you can use a shield with them. Which, granted, is not so mandatory as it was in old crpg when even 2hs had shields since being oneshot/twoshot by a bow is not funny, and throwing and crossbows were more dangerous.

1h no shield (as a class) is little more then a novelty class for bored people.

[Bobthehero]

Its been my class for the better part of 2 years...

[Teeth]

Nah not necesarry, 1h no shield is pretty viable. I like how the only reason to go swashbuckler is because you are awesome. You just know when you see another swashbuckler that he is awesome.

Bask in your awesomeness Bob! Bask in it!

[bruce]

Then you don't need buffs since you're awesome and not a crutchmoder! 

[Lange]

I like how the only reason to go swashbuckler is because you are awesome.

I did this and I agree.

And, yeah, 1H-only IS underpowered. Just compare the pure stats of a knightly arming and a longsword. Everything else would be pretty strange, though. So, leave it as is.

[Teeth]

I did this and I agree.

And, yeah, 1H-only IS underpowered. Just compare the pure stats of a knightly arming and a longsword. Everything else would be pretty strange, though. So, leave it as is.

Thats where the awesomeness factor comes in.

Actually 1h does have really awesome animations, people really suck at blocking them. I perform very similar as a 2h compared to swashbuckling.

[Bjord]

When I think "swashbuckler" I just see LeoKing run around like a fucker and you want to buff him even more? 

Bobi pls

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