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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2012, 11:57:37 pm »
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He is talking about using a 1 hander without a shield

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2012, 12:02:48 am »
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I tried myself on 1h-only for 2-3 gens and it certainly has it's own char and needs a completely different approach to the game.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2012, 02:11:08 am »
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I just retired a 30/9 1h no shield character. It can be a bit frustrating fighting some s-key heroes, but in tight situations, it works well.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2012, 02:28:14 am »
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When I think "swashbuckler" I just see LeoKing run around like a fucker and you want to buff him even more?

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Leoking isn't a swashbuckler, he's a buckler-using my old friend, remove shield ghost-reach and Leo has gotten appropriately nerfed.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2012, 02:40:19 am »
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Do read the OP, I said the bonus should only work if the character has no shield skill, zero, none, zéro, nada, aucun, pas de shield skill.

The WPF requirement (feel free to change it to something, 100 might be more appropriate, but at 70 my archer alt could use the bonus too) is there so that archer would need to invest a bit of skills, but not too much, so they can get okay-ish melee and lower ranged capacities.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2012, 03:15:40 am »
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Leoking isn't a swashbuckler, he's a buckler-using my old friend, remove shield ghost-reach and Leo has gotten appropriately nerfed.

"Swashbuckler (a.k.a. swasher) is a term that emerged in the 16th century[1] and has been used for rough, noisy and boastful swordsmen ever since. A possible explanation for this term is that it derives from a fighting style using a side-sword with a buckler in the off-hand, which was applied with much "swashing and making a noise on the buckler".[2] Later the name "swashbuckler" (like Gunslinger) became common for an archetype and the accordant special film genre.[3]In Italy the genre was known as Cappa e spada."

Courtesy of Wikipedia. So he is a swashbuckler, while you no shield my old friends are just archerbait. Buff ranged.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2012, 03:35:29 am »
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Fuck off Bruce, I am calling my class how I want.

You really are an idiot, should have though so after your ''buff ranged damage by 50% uheuhueuhe''

'sides, I boast often, probably too often sometimes, so it fits.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2012, 04:26:06 am »
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"Swashbuckler (a.k.a. swasher) is a term that emerged in the 16th century[1] and has been used for rough, noisy and boastful swordsmen ever since. A possible explanation for this term is that it derives from a fighting style using a side-sword with a buckler in the off-hand, which was applied with much "swashing and making a noise on the buckler".[2] Later the name "swashbuckler" (like Gunslinger) became common for an archetype and the accordant special film genre.[3]In Italy the genre was known as Cappa e spada."

Courtesy of Wikipedia. So he is a swashbuckler, while you no shield my old friends are just archerbait. Buff ranged.
Noob, Leoking never boasts, and he isn't noisy in his gay ass armor.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 02:59:10 pm »
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I agree with the OP's suggestion, it would be really cool.

However, there is one part I do not agree. I think no wpf in twohand/polearm is not really needed. If a 2hander/hoplite/pikeman wants to use 1handed as a sidearm, he truly deserves a buff.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2012, 06:37:50 pm »
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I put that there because I was thinking about giving a Power Strike bonus, and that it could affect 2 handers who could just put x 1h WPF and use their 2h weapon with all the benefits.

Meh, lack of proper sleep, now I realise the bonus could just appear when there's a 1h out.
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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2012, 08:31:03 pm »
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I put that there because I was thinking about giving a Power Strike bonus, and that it could affect 2 handers who could just put x 1h WPF and use their 2h weapon with all the benefits.

Meh, lack of proper sleep, now I realise the bonus could just appear when there's a 1h out.

More power strike bonus, lol, you already have 10.

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2012, 08:46:39 pm »
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Well free damage is pretty much extra powerstrike, ain't it :P

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2012, 02:05:05 pm »
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I think the block stagger is the biggest problem, really fucks you up when facing a heavy hitter.

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2012, 02:14:40 pm »
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Damage is less, yeah, but the right swing lets you do some really sweet range control with a 1h, not to mention that barely anyone can withstand more than just a couple of 1h feints. Also, hitting face.

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Re: Buff Swashbucklers (oh yes!)
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2012, 02:23:07 pm »
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But the beauty of being a swashbuckler is that you're at a disadvantage!