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Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« on: June 06, 2012, 02:31:12 am »
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I'm not sure which genius did it but lat Bec nerf from 37 to 34 pierce was totally uncalled for. You see, Bec is utter shit of an expensive weapon.

It's short, really, really short. It has stupid hitbox, left swing of Bec is the useless left swing of all polearms (which already have bad left swing). Thrust is very situational like Shortened Millitary Scythe thrust, it's not even fast, extemely short, almost useless. Right swing is good but still short. Overhead is decent.

What was good about this weapon?

Well, once it had CT, then it was removed, stats nerfed from 42 pierce (I think) to 39 or so. Then further nerf to 37 or 36 pierce where Bec became just good weapon. Now it has 34 peierce damage on swings and 26 pierce on thrust and it's not a bad weapon but it's one of the worse choices, especiialy for its price.

Bring it back to 37 pierce swing, 28 pierce thrust.

About Bec's price:

Long Bardiche, weapon I've "discovered" as OP almost a year ago, costs less than 7k gold. Long Bardiche wasn't nerfed probably because Leshma said it's OP and devs and everyone else are on autopilot whenever Leshma says something (look it's that idiot again - ignore or do completely oposite).

Long Bardiche is basically a poleaxe for half its price, with a crappy stab but a lot better swing. It's WAY better than Bec.

Not just Long Bardiche is a lot better than Bec, most polearms are!

So, forget silly NA legends about Goretooth and his might Bec and make this weapon useful in battle once more.

Only thing it had was high damage, now it has nothing.

Actually I forgot, you can use it on horseback..

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 02:39:36 am »
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 03:23:17 am »
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Make it swing-able from horseback!

Polo is a stylish sport for gentry. It would give bec a purpose, and justify the cost.
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 03:30:34 am »
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I'm not sure which genius did it but lat Bec nerf from 37 to 34 pierce was totally uncalled for. You see, Bec is utter shit of an expensive weapon.

It's short, really, really short. It has stupid hitbox, left swing of Bec is the useless left swing of all polearms (which already have bad left swing). Thrust is very situational like Shortened Millitary Scythe thrust, it's not even fast, extemely short, almost useless. Right swing is good but still short. Overhead is decent.

What was good about this weapon?

Well, once it had CT, then it was removed, stats nerfed from 42 pierce (I think) to 39 or so. Then further nerf to 37 or 36 pierce where Bec became just good weapon. Now it has 34 peierce damage on swings and 26 pierce on thrust and it's not a bad weapon but it's one of the worse choices, especiialy for its price.

Bring it back to 37 pierce swing, 28 pierce thrust.

About Bec's price:

Long Bardiche, weapon I've "discovered" as OP almost a year ago, costs less than 7k gold. Long Bardiche wasn't nerfed probably because Leshma said it's OP and devs and everyone else are on autopilot whenever Leshma says something (look it's that idiot again - ignore or do completely oposite).

Long Bardiche is basically a poleaxe for half its price, with a crappy stab but a lot better swing. It's WAY better than Bec.

Not just Long Bardiche is a lot better than Bec, most polearms are!

So, forget silly NA legends about Goretooth and his might Bec and make this weapon useful in battle once more.

Only thing it had was high damage, now it has nothing.



I spend like 4 gens on that weapon and it is awesome like it is

next gen again bec and i dont want buff

awesome good weapon


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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 03:31:24 am »
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IMO(remember this is MY opinion) the bec is fine. It is weak in certain areas BUT it hits fast and if used correctly can be a wonderful weapon. All the same I do see what leshma is saying, but i dont see it as big of a problem

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 03:34:06 am »
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Make it swingable from horseback. I would like to play polo in crpg.
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 03:57:38 am »
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Make it swingable from horseback. I would like to play polo in crpg.

You can swing it from horseback already. Right or left or up LMB click and then get on the horse and that animation will stay on horseback. Epicnezzz
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 04:01:51 am »
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You can repeat that or it's stuck in animation?
Anyway that's glitching and I wouldn't want admin to see me doing it.

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 05:10:21 am »
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Wat.
The Bec de Corbin is THE tin-can cracker.
It's medium speed, medium length, and very good pierce damage.
It's one of the best polearms for straight up fighting.

Frankly, I think cRPG has achieved a level of balance overall, that is unrivaled by any point in its past.

I can't imagine anyone ever calling the bec "weak."
That's simply not in one's vocabulary when that weapon is the subject of the sentence.
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 05:19:58 am »
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It has the op unnecessary polearm stagger therefore,NERF MOAR .
Seriously fuck this and remove polestagger i can even spam with german poelaxe 27str-12agi build dafuq is this shit...

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 07:46:24 am »
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In 75% of the situations Bec de Corbin sucks for its pisspoor range.

Damage is ok, nothing you couldnt get with 5 other, lil more expensive ones.

Not a weapon to consider a first choice. Leshma is somewhat right.

Slight buff, why nat.

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 04:32:35 pm »
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gief blunt

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 04:36:27 pm »
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If they change damage to blunt they'll have to add knockdown too and unbalanced tag will come with it. It will became different looking and shorter Long Hafted/Spiked Mace.

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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 05:11:38 pm »
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I think it's just fine with 34 pierce.  it still opens up tin cans like whoa.  it's better than the long bardiche (4 more speed), and better than long bardiche if you have 6 PS (like me) and going up against someone in medium/heavy to heavy armor. 

The long bardiche IS a nice weapon though.  If I carry another polearm for when I'm de-horsed, it's almost always the long bardiche.
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Re: Un-nerf Bec de Corbin
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 05:30:34 pm »
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buff secondary mode to 28-29 dmg (has 25b ,91 speed now)