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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #105 on: May 12, 2012, 04:24:56 pm »
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The archer nerf affected every ranged class (throwing and xbowing was hit worse than friendly archery), so I don't exactly see how it got shit to do with HX and cavalry numbers growing...

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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2012, 04:47:20 pm »
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The archer nerf affected every ranged class (throwing and xbowing was hit worse than friendly archery), so I don't exactly see how it got shit to do with HX numbers growing...

Crossbows have a much higher velocity then bows do with a certain arrow speed nerf in the past, thus HX have a greater threat bubble then ground archers, due to the slow moving archer using a low velocity projectile against a fast moving horse using a high velocity projectile. Due to the lower arrow velocity, horses can be much more aggressive then normal as they can come closer then normal due to more "prediction" needed on the archer's part to hit the target. People on NA are figuring out that a swarm of HX are a royal pain to counter if they have just half a brain, and if someone who actually knows what they are doing goes with HX (like Roh) then this becomes a very real problem.

This is why Cavalry of all sorts is becoming significantly more popular, as the range threat against it is anemic compared to the past. This is also why the range population is also growing, due to infantry wishing to have even just a sidearm (4 PT or a side crossbow) to help ward against cav. So, certain range nerfs have led a sharp increase in Cavalry and a small increase in Projectiles on NA. I was seriously going to switch to shielder and respec, but due to the absurd levels in Cavalry I'm sticking with being a level 33 Archer.
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2012, 05:05:34 pm »
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Crossbows have a much higher velocity then bows do with a certain arrow speed nerf in the past, thus HX have a greater threat bubble then ground archers, due to the slow moving archer using a low velocity projectile against a fast moving horse using a high velocity projectile. Due to the lower arrow velocity, horses can be much more aggressive then normal as they can come closer then normal due to more "prediction" needed on the archer's part to hit the target. People on NA are figuring out that a swarm of HX are a royal pain to counter if they have just half a brain, and if someone who actually knows what they are doing goes with HX (like Roh) then this becomes a very real problem.

This is why Cavalry of all sorts is becoming significantly more popular, as the range threat against it is anemic compared to the past. This is also why the range population is also growing, due to infantry wishing to have even just a sidearm (4 PT or a side crossbow) to help ward against cav. So, certain range nerfs have led a sharp increase in Cavalry and a small increase in Projectiles on NA. I was seriously going to switch to shielder and respec, but due to the absurd levels in Cavalry I'm sticking with being a level 33 Archer.

Tears you're incorrect. Crossbow has high initial(shot gun range) speed but it rapidly deterioates over distance. Archers have all around FASTER projectiles than Xbows. But at near CQB range, the high rate is all on the xbow. Oh and Xbows get delayed way more than bows do on release....
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2012, 05:27:47 pm »
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Doesn't it hurt for your brain matter to be so dense?
The ranged ('cuss my old friendchers like yourself weren't hit half as bad as throwers) is the main reason for the cav rise, yes, however, I simply pointed out that HX are also ranged and have been equally nerfed...
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2012, 08:57:10 pm »
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2012, 09:32:43 pm »
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Vigilante justice eh?

You remind me of those dudes at the bar in southpark.

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Just because a lot of people don't like a playstyle still doesn't mean they should be bullied into stopping it.  If 50% of the population was able to vote in changes ranged weaponry wouldn't exist in this game, neither would cavalry or pikes.

Wrong, put up a poll and you will see how wrong you are.  Most people are reasonable and know range belongs in the game.  What is unreasonable is waiting 3 minutes for 1 person to die, on a regular basis.

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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2012, 09:43:44 pm »
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if i ban poll digglez next time he comes on and it goes through, how about u NH guys just make a thread like this instead of ban requesting me.
im sure over 1/2 the server disagrees with digglez playstyle and attitude so its A okay in your books.

Try NH_Zan, since he's probably our top spearman, which is the thing you claimed to hate.  You could also try some people in KUTT, since they have a lot of full time pikers.  Your personal vendetta against Digglez' because he's gotten half of your TK friends banned is irrelevant.



Point being, there is no popular uprising against pikes and long spears.  You're not going to get a random poll ban to stick on Tanken just because he stabs a lot of faces with his pike.  Nor will you likely get a ban to stick on Chestacles even though he's probably NA's #1 thrower.  Throwers and pikers don't cause the same types of problems that HX cause.

You are, again, talking out of your ass.  It's right up there with Grannpappy's assertion that bans always work because the cRPG community are all dicks.  Interesting HX apologist statements that don't really stand up to casual inspection.
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #112 on: May 13, 2012, 12:04:49 am »
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Wrong, put up a poll and you will see how wrong you are.  Most people are reasonable and know range belongs in the game.  What is unreasonable is waiting 3 minutes for 1 person to die, on a regular basis.

i was not aware that you could even delay a round for 3 minutes without the flags coming up dummy
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2012, 12:13:38 am »
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why is this thread still going someone lock it please
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2012, 01:43:19 am »
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Out of curiosity, what is your build rohyp? I wanna see how hard it actually is.

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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2012, 03:05:50 am »
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2012, 03:24:50 am »
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It's as simple as this:

HAs/HXs being the last man alive, followed by a dozen enemies and still winning the round is on one hand viable, because all he does is playing his class, but it's boring to watch, and somehow unfair because if he doesn't fail big time infantry can't harm him at all.

To solve this problem of who should be allowed/able to kill whom, just remove the necessarity to kill anyone at all - make master of the field appear ALWAYS at 2 ir 3 mins left. Problem solved. I don't know how many thousand times it has already been suggested, until this very day the developers still ignored it.
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2012, 10:25:08 am »
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tydeus i thought i would give people something to read.. i thought genenral discussion was lacking a bit

goretooth when is our date set.. posting kdr is gay and you have fell a victim to it more times than me.. it makes us both homosexuals.. KISS baby.. you gotta nice ass

the real point of it was to prove on how everytime i get on i get vote kicked and people say i dont kill shit and i delay.. obviously i just proved that wrong..

i dunno.. all i can say is for the peeps that hate it.. try it so i can watch you fail horribly.. then go back to your archer or thrower and cry because you cant aim..

man i bet the 2nd best score on a horse xbow is probably something like 2:1 kdr at the most 3:1
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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2012, 12:57:56 pm »
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Wrong, put up a poll and you will see how wrong you are.  Most people are reasonable and know range belongs in the game.  What is unreasonable is waiting 3 minutes for 1 person to die, on a regular basis.

I find it more unreasonable that a lot of people can't kill 1 person in under a minute.

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Re: just over the last couple of days... funny right? DISCUSS
« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2012, 03:02:36 pm »
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