2 Handers

[Kafein]

More damage and less speed please. Also, more weight to represent the encucumberance that a 2h weapon is when you run.

[Siberian_Wolf]

More damage and less speed please. Also, more weight to represent the encucumberance that a 2h weapon is when you run.

2 Handers already 1 hits, extra damage not needed

[Ronin]

Yah, just lower their speed and they should be fine.

[Bobthehero]

Taking other mods is a bad example, there's no slot limit or non sheatable stuff and you can't change your stats to fit your class, some classes also have more skill than they could have at this level.

[Teeth]

The class balance in Native still amazes me, please don't tell me you'd like to see that in cRPG. The Mount&Blade devs create a combat system that is farkin awesome and then they proceed to make ranged classes so strong so that half the combat system has to be thrown out of the window and replaced by a simple right click if you don't think that being a porcupine is something for you.

The class balance in cRPG has never been this good. If anything polearms is the stronger melee class, atleast I think they are the easiest class.

[Okkam]

Yes, our balance is best. We only add some items to make balance better.

Enjoy our balanced
Great maul
Long Maul
Flamberge
Xbows
Any freaksword after sword of war
Plated charger
Heavy but lightweight armors
throwing lances
superfast onhanders

et cetera et cetera...

[Zisa]

As we all know, 2 Handers have been the top class to play as. With their animations to high speed and damage they rule crpg.
I suggest a nerf to all 2 Hander weapon damage and speed to balance it out.

* Takes a bucket out* Now let me see this bucket filled with the tears of all who dont support it.

go fuck yourself. Preferably in siberia, or the ass.

[Siberian_Wolf]

go fuck yourself. Preferably in siberia, or the ass.

Careful to hide your screen, your mom might ground you for using such naughty words.

[Ronin]

Meh. You did not get what wanted to say. I did not say make it similiar to the native. It's just that, playing native as a melee or ranged class (doesn't matter which) is truly fun. As an archer, you send your arrows at exactly where you want them to be. And as a melee class, you can block them with your shield. They are both fun, and have no drawbacks. After all we are playing to have fun. That's simple as that.

Playing as a crippled goblin archer (crpg archer) is not fun really. When there are Aragorns (two handers) slashing their targets with ease and be the top on the scoreboard. Ok let's screw scoreboard as well. Playing is a twohander is more rewarding. You figure out what should be done I don't give much of a shit. But it shouldn't be that complex. The principle of a game should be simple; grab your axe, sword, lance or bow and have loads of fun.

[Siberian_Wolf]

Meh. You did not get what wanted to say. I did not say make it similiar to the native. It's just that, playing native as a melee or ranged class (doesn't matter which) is truly fun. As an archer, you send your arrows at exactly where you want them to be. And as a melee class, you can block them with your shield. They are both fun, and have no drawbacks. After all we are playing to have fun. That's simple as that.

Playing as a crippled goblin archer (crpg archer) is not fun really. When there are Aragorns (two handers) slashing their targets with ease and be the top on the scoreboard. Ok let's screw scoreboard as well. Playing is a twohander is more rewarding. You figure out what should be done I don't give much of a shit. But it shouldn't be that complex. The principle of a game should be simple; grab your axe, sword, lance or bow and have loads of fun.

your absolutely right, but I dont believe we need to buff anything, this isn't a buff thread. I wish a nerf on the most dominating class. Its perfect logic, ifnthere is a class that is obviously dominate, theres something there thats putting it to an advatage over every other class = unbalanced. So make it balanced!

[RandomDude]

Fully loomed set of gothic plate + sallet (one of the 3 real plate armours) + mw flamberge

vs


Archer with loomed gear.

Both lvl 30.

Archer needs 1 hs to take the 2h out.

I dont think archery is weak.

[Digglez]

I'm fine with their damage and speed, but animation exploitation is pretty horribly gay.

If the game actually made realistic sweet spots such as the first 1/3 of a 2h'er would never do any damage, half these guys would GTX immediately

[Zisa]

Careful to hide your screen, your mom might ground you for using such naughty words.

She suggested such ongoing whine from the stupid no longer merits even a polite response, even to someone so age challenged (mentally) as to bring mom's into it.

[owens]

1v1

In practice
1H no shield > 2H > polearm

Statistically
Polearm > 2H > 1H

The real issue for 1v1 combat is the animations 1H animations are more difficult to predict and give different attacks variable reaches (fore hand vs backhand).

Between polearms and 2h the balance really isn't bad. Of course style, skill, build and load out change this but for me the game is well balanced if anything damage for 1h should be higher in general if he 1H animation is changed.

[San]

I'd rather they speed up 1h right swing and fix polearm left swing's hitbox. It's pointless to have unusable swing directions at times.