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after 16 gen. we want to gain more xp ?

we need to gain more xp
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this is good we don't need to gain xp
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we need more xp after 16 generations !
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:31:26 pm »
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need more xp after 16 generations.Vote it !

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 08:39:28 pm »
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we've already had that, the devs had to divide existed heirlooms by 3 and stop the generation abuse.
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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 08:45:00 pm »
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need more xp after 16 generations.Vote it !

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 08:45:49 pm »
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we've already had that, the devs had to divide existed heirlooms by 3 and stop the generation abuse.
no.
I don't abuse . I'm only asking about it !

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 09:19:53 pm »
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No.  Make an alt and transfer looms to your main when you retire.  Some people have a lot of time on their hands to play c-rpg

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 09:23:38 pm »
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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 09:40:50 pm »
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I think retirement should give diminishing results. Like, 100 bonus xp for the first gen, then use the 0.9th power of what the previous bonus was each time you retire again :

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gen2 100
gen3 100^0.9 ~= 63
gen4 63^0.9 ~= 41
gen5 41^0.9 ~= 28
gen6 28^0.9 ~= 20
gen7 20^0.9 ~= 15
gen8 15^0.9 ~= 11
gen9 11^0.9 ~= 9
gen10 9^0.9 ~= 7
gen11 7^0.9 ~= 5
gen12 5^0.9 ~= 4
gen13 4^0.9 ~= 4 (the real number is smaller but is still truncated as 4)
gen14 4^0.9 ~= 3
gen15 3^0.9 ~= 3
gen16 3^0.9 ~= 2
gen17 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen18 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen19 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen20 2^0.9 ~= 1

And it stays 1 forever after generation 20 (yes it can lead to a potential infinite xp bonus but I don't think we do care about what could become a problem in a few decades at worst).



It think this formula with these parameters gives significantly less bonus xp than the current one until you reach a very high gen count. 0.95 as the power is probably a better choice.

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 09:48:37 pm »
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I think retirement should give diminishing results. Like, 100 bonus xp for the first gen, then use the 0.9th power of what the previous bonus was each time you retire again :

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gen2 100
gen3 100^0.9 ~= 63
gen4 63^0.9 ~= 41
gen5 41^0.9 ~= 28
gen6 28^0.9 ~= 20
gen7 20^0.9 ~= 15
gen8 15^0.9 ~= 11
gen9 11^0.9 ~= 9
gen10 9^0.9 ~= 7
gen11 7^0.9 ~= 5
gen12 5^0.9 ~= 4
gen13 4^0.9 ~= 4 (the real number is smaller but is still truncated as 4)
gen14 4^0.9 ~= 3
gen15 3^0.9 ~= 3
gen16 3^0.9 ~= 2
gen17 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen18 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen19 2^0.9 ~= 2
gen20 2^0.9 ~= 1

And it stays 1 forever after generation 20 (yes it can lead to a potential infinite xp bonus but I don't think we do care about what could become a problem in a few decades at worst).



It think this formula with these parameters gives significantly less bonus xp than the current one until you reach a very high gen count. 0.95 as the power is probably a better choice.

yep, let's encourage people to be high level powerwhores by never retiring....oh wait dev team wants people to retire to avoid that  :rolleyes:

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 09:52:42 pm »
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No because for players like me (Gen 16) that is above 31+ level is not fair

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 10:03:48 pm »
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yep, let's encourage people to be high level powerwhores by never retiring....oh wait dev team wants people to retire to avoid that  :rolleyes:

This system would encourage people to retire more, rather than less. Currently, you go to gen 16 then after that retiring is virtually pointless. IMO retirement should remain an interesting option for a longer time.

No because for players like me (Gen 16) that is above 31+ level is not fair

Of course it would be unfair if characters weren't updated. Porting characters to this system would not create problems. It has been done in the past and can be done again. Everything can be recalculated back using your current xp and gen count.

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 10:05:10 pm »
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No because for players like me (Gen 16) that is above 31+ level is not fair
Yes it is.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 10:09:30 pm »
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This system would encourage people to retire more, rather than less. Currently, you go to gen 16 then after that retiring is virtually pointless. IMO retirement should remain an interesting option for a longer time.

Of course it would be unfair if characters weren't updated. Porting characters to this system would not create problems. It has been done in the past and can be done again. Everything can be recalculated back using your current xp and gen count.

what? you saying that geving less gen benefits would make people retire more? what?

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2012, 10:58:57 pm »
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So Kafein, you would only get one more exp for each time you retire after 20?

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 12:34:47 am »
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the only thing you need after 16gens is a girlfriend

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Re: we need more xp after 16 generations !
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 07:43:19 am »
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XP bonus wont make high gen people (like myself) retire.

I and many others only retire because we can't be bothered with playing the same build for ages. (Though I am trying to stay on one build for the first time (made it to level 31 so far), because there really isn't any reasons to retire any more).

There should be some other incentive than heirlooms and XP bonus, not that I know what it should be, maybe the 32+ heirloom that would be a 4th heirloom.