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21/15 vs. 18/18
« on: March 19, 2011, 03:55:55 am »
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I'm still leveling up my first character and I am debating between 21/15 and 18/18. I use a 2h (longsword). I am level 27 at the moment, and thus it would be best to decide soon. I would like to know how much more attack speed you gain from that little bit of extra agility.

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 04:56:31 am »
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From what I have read in the last few days and also heard from asking ingame is that you no longer receive any weopon speed bonus from AGI only the ability to unlock the agi skills.  But yet one person said you do.  But that's one person against Everyone else so I figure you don't since patch like they said.  But who knows maybe that one person is right?  I myself have been wondering the same thing and keep making STR builds but really prefer an AGI build if it was viable.  At least STR gives you an extra HP, I seem to be outlasting people lately at about lvl 26'ish running the last half of matches with that extra shred of life still left from being high STR and IF where as normally I'd of died a long time ago.

Thing is if you're pure then the extra point in weopon skill is probably moot once you get that high to go 18 agi as it would really only add like 8 wpf - but hybrid I guess it would be worth it for sure.  But then you get to unlock another athletics, which afaik from reading other postings that is gimp past about 4 or 5 as well.  Especially if using medium and most of all heavy armor. 

What's your current build and weopon layout? 
« Last Edit: March 19, 2011, 05:01:00 am by 1slander »
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 04:59:14 am »
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battle char vs duel char.
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 08:53:18 am »
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I use a Longsword, Sarranid Elite armor, Barbutte, Lamelar (however you spell it) gauntlets, and mail boots. This is my build so far: visitors can't see pics , please register or login

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 11:09:26 am »
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No you don't need 18 agility unless you want the extra athletics longsword should be fast enough you have already 143 wpf and by 30 you will be 147 which is good.

If agility still increases attack speed it was 0.5% per point so 1.5% I would rather get more damage and health.
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 11:37:37 am »
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18/18 might be better for duels, whilst a 21/15 is generally better in a battle, where the extra damage and HP really helps.

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 11:40:11 am »
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27/15 without ironflesh at 31

EDIT: I failed, it's 27/15 not 24
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 11:56:13 am »
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
   
    * Strength: 24
    * Agility: 15
    * Hit points: 69

    * Converted: 8
    * Ironflesh: 5
    * Power Strike: 8
    * Athletics: 5
    * Weapon Master: 5

    * Two Handed/Polearms: 148

Might be weaker for duels but for battles I think this is the best build for a 2H or polearm user.

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 12:48:52 pm »
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longsword? Go 18/21
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 01:04:08 pm »
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go for 18/18 and then after 1st gen youll se what suits you better agi or str, anyways you probably gonna retire lots of time so experiment and have fun
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 02:39:25 pm »
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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 03:34:17 pm »
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i would chose either 18/21 or 15/24

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2011, 05:05:08 pm »
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I don't entirely agree with spending more than 2 pts for conversion tbh.  That rounds you up to the 18/18 possibility or any other combination. 

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2011, 05:26:57 pm »
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Im trying to decide my pure pa cav build i'm thinking 21/15

7 ps and if
5 wm, alth and riding

high agi is still useful on duel server but with new wpf forumulas and alth not really doing that much str is the way to be atm.

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Re: 21/15 vs. 18/18
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2011, 05:40:19 pm »
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Id prefer 21/18. Your gonna need the extra PS with that longsword.
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