Author Topic: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?  (Read 2623 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Qaki

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 2
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: nill
  • Game nicks: Qaki
Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« on: March 15, 2011, 05:34:30 am »
+1
Ive heard alot of answers.. soo does anyone know for sure?  :|
im cute as a button

Offline Patricia

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 108
  • Infamy: 78
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 05:41:46 am »
0
Damage up to PD req of bow + 4.

Accuracy has no PD limit, so yes.

Offline N4B_Jack_Sparrow

  • Noble
  • **
  • Renown: 14
  • Infamy: 12
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
    • Riders Of Rohan
  • Faction: Noobs For Boobs
  • Game nicks: N4B_Gimli_The_MightY , N4B_Gilinor_The_MightY
  • IRC nick: N4B_Gimli_The_MightY
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 07:04:46 am »
0
So if I am going to increase my power draw I am going to shoot easier or what??

What about my agility? What if I'm going to increase my agility am I going to shoot faster? I think yes but I'm not sure.

But the moast I want to be a good shoter! So I have to  "point" well.  (I want to "meriti" well in Slovenian).

I'm from Slovenia so please understand my mistakes.


Offline Barracuda

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 63
  • Infamy: 5
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mersenaamat
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 03:19:23 pm »
0
Ive heard alot of answers.. soo does anyone know for sure?  :|

No. I've tested this and I had no accuracy increase with higher PD. Other archers have also verified this in their posts.

Edit: It does however increase the time that your reticule stays small.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 03:25:15 pm by Barracuda »

Offline Patricia

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 108
  • Infamy: 78
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 06:48:37 pm »
0
No. I've tested this and I had no accuracy increase with higher PD. Other archers have also verified this in their posts.

Edit: It does however increase the time that your reticule stays small.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,876.msg11499.html#msg11499

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Barracuda

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 63
  • Infamy: 5
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Mersenaamat
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 09:48:21 pm »
0
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,876.msg11499.html#msg11499

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


I stand corrected. I've tested this with nomad bow 3-7 PD (or khergit 4-7 PD, I can't remember) and it didn't have any notable effect.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2011, 09:50:21 pm by Barracuda »

Offline Polobow

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 267
  • Infamy: 30
  • cRPG Player Sir White Knight A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: SoA
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 05:10:41 pm »
0

Offline Elmetiacos

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 175
  • Infamy: 45
  • cRPG Player
  • You've probably teamkilled me
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Hot_Chick_with_a_Sword, Dark_Rose_Knight
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 08:30:58 pm »
0
It definitely does not. It used to in earlier versions of the mod, but that has now changed. We tested it on an archery thread on the TaleWorlds forum with screenshots and everything.
The word is "anyway" not "anyways". You are not Gabby Hayes.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Miley

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 604
  • Infamy: 327
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 10:55:48 pm »
0
I was about to ask this same question, but then I found this. :3

Does anyone know, for sure?

Offline cmp

  • M:BG Developer
  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 2052
  • Infamy: 569
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • IRC nick: cmp
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 11:07:26 pm »
0
It does, but cRPG reduces it by lowering your WPF.

Offline jspook

  • Noble
  • **
  • Renown: 17
  • Infamy: 3
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
    • Auphan
  • Game nicks: Pit
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 11:11:13 pm »
0
Ahhh, so at 1 wpf, as indicated in the above tests it would definately improve.  But with any amout of wpf, it would negate the gain by lowering it so it stays the same.... right??
"Scissors needs a nerf because he beats me every time, but rock is just fine" - paper

Offline Grey

  • Permanently Banned
  • **
  • Renown: 72
  • Infamy: 54
  • cRPG Player
  • Hope you like arrows...
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Knights Templar
  • Game nicks: -
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 11:17:51 pm »
0
So Ive always been right in stating that a true dedicated archer has PD 6.  After that, every little bit of WPF u can grab with WM is agood thing.

I build archers to 18 Str 3 Agi, then stack everything in agility from then on, WM and Athle, who cares if your shots do a little bit more dmg, if you cant hit what you aim at.

But then, for me personally, there are only 2 bows, War and Strong, all the others are not viable realistically, much as I loved my 3 STR shortbow arrowMG42, this patch leads to sensible, hidden, unarmoured archers doing the real ranged dmg, with war bows, from far away, and High PD will NOT help you enough to be worth it. Just my opinion.
Bamboo Bundle Bowman: 90'' draw, groups at 200 yards.

Offline Keshian

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1176
  • Infamy: 992
  • cRPG Player
  • Diggity diggity
    • View Profile
  • Faction: FCC (Bridgeburner, Unicorn, Cavalieres, Narwhal)
  • Game nicks: Red-haired bitch from hell
  • IRC nick: Bitch, pleasssse.
Re: Does PowerDraw increase accuracy in bows?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 01:17:03 am »
0
Ahhh, so at 1 wpf, as indicated in the above tests it would definately improve.  But with any amout of wpf, it would negate the gain by lowering it so it stays the same.... right??

What Cmpx said, at least it sounds to me, is that there is a benefit but just a lesser benefit because it also reduces wpf which affects accuracy.  So it would seem that pd 6 with 150 wpf is slightly less accurate than pd 7, which also does a little bit more damage.  But since the tradeoff is usually +1 powerdraw means -1 weaponmaster going into archery (8-9 wpf at higher levels) its a balancing act and putting 1 more into weaponmaster instead of powerdraw increases your accuracy but not as much as would be expected relatively and you dont get the damage bonus (though there is the roughly 1.5% wpf damage bonus from +9 wpf).  So play around with your builds and see what works for you.

I also noticed recently just how much helmets still affect wpf and even my 9.5 weight body armor compared to 4.5 or 2.5 weight armor.  The reticules are significantly tighter and a faster draw.
http://keshoxford.com/  - Where middle-eastern meets red-hot and spicy!

"[Strat 5]... war game my ass, tis more like a popularity contest"  Plumbo

Offline Patricia

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 108
  • Infamy: 78
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 01:26:35 am »
0
Ah! Take that people saying I was wrong.

Offline Grey

  • Permanently Banned
  • **
  • Renown: 72
  • Infamy: 54
  • cRPG Player
  • Hope you like arrows...
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Knights Templar
  • Game nicks: -
Re: Does PowerDraw increas accuracy in bows?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 01:29:17 am »
0
People jacking my style now all over the place:

(click to show/hide)

Stylish, and doesn't sap your accuracy. Armour is for the weak...in mind and spirit...
Bamboo Bundle Bowman: 90'' draw, groups at 200 yards.