Is this balanced?

[Okkam]

Practice long sword versus Scythe
Literally - 117 versus 182

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woesVWoCtkM&feature=related

What made me post this thread mostly, was many pictures of one guy with glaive owning 5 others without being hit... And he wasn't any pro.

I fear that his opponent's was not a pro too.

And again, no one has said his opinion about the prices? Don't you think Glaive is pretty similiary powerful to Danish, and still 5k cheaper?

This is only a pity attempt to «Balance» overpowered Danish and German greatswords in comparison with polearms

[Grumbs]

Now that you know the lengths aren't really quite so different you should do some more research. Make an STF alt, save a bit (you start with 10k), get a glaive and go to the duel server and test it out. The burden of proof is on you rather than others when you say something is OP. To me the length isn't that big of a factor due to animations and its slower/does less damage than danish

Looking at the price, you might try comparing with a 2handed sword instead. That will most likely stab further than glaive and is 95 speed so as long as you can block while you get in range you have the advantage. For that matter, how about the Longsword? Deceptively long stab and 98 speed

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

you'd be better off trying to get info left and right before doing a rant/balance thread. I'm sorry but i couldnt stop laughing when you said GLA had same reach as danish, i wander what Tor would say 

I konw BIA tony's playstyle, he's the king of the very loooooong hold attack. but it's not because he can kick your ass with 3 ath with a polearm that these weapons are op. Duel Vibe you'll see he will kick your ass with a greatsword and some will do it without moving!

ironically some of the polearms have same reach as a 1h, such as the GLA , the elegant and the german poleaxeare on par on the right swing and stab of the nordic champion sword (tried it out on the duel serv with a 1h clanmate, although i cant be 100% precise)

why is that? just because of the way the weapon is held, when you swing your sword, the length of the arm comes to add itself to the length of the weapon. On the otherhand the polearm swing is shgorter then the reach shown on the site due to the way it's held. all this is implemented in crpg mechanics

ps : if im not wrong glaive has better right swing then the greatsword family, but to say it is OP, that's another thread, created by our great weapon expert blackmilk

[Aseplhood]

Alright then, I'm off my previous thoughts about glaive op'ness. However, you won't questionate, that when someone has enaugh polearm wpf, spears are way too awesome in his hands.

[Elindor]

i think its the recovery speed that bothers me about polearms (and many heavier weapons) more than anything else.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

Alright then, I'm off my previous thoughts about glaive op'ness. However, you won't questionate, that when someone has enaugh polearm wpf, spears are way too awesome in his hands.

yea instastab on those kind of weapons are annoying, patience is the key. when your fighting an awlpike or a ashwood pike user there will often use a combo that works against 80% of the players on battle :

overhead (you block) and they will instantly thrust after, before you can counter attack, keep this in mind

oh yea, when i think about it, the 1 weight GLA has over danish is an advantage, it can stunlock 1h swords (and not 1h maces)

[CrazyCracka420]

Well for one, not all weapons are supposed to be "balanced".  You should have to decide if you want length, or speed, or power, etc.  There should be trade offs.  So for one, the OP's an idiot to suggest everything NEEDS to be balanced.

And furthermore, the danish is better than the Glaive or the GLA (and the Long War Axe is a better weapon than the GLA, but that's another story).

2 more speed than the glaive, 2 more pierce, and 1 more cut.  Not to mention that 2h's have a lot better animations than polearms).  It has 1 more speed than the GLA (same as the LWA I believe), and the "same length" (which is actually much much longer when you consider the swing animations and add the extra lenght on).  The GLA gets 5 more cut, but that's basically because the stab is useless (16 blunt damage, lol).  In conclusion: OP's a fucking moron.

Polearms :
+0   Stab
+15 Overhead
+23 Right
+15 Left

2 handed :
+65 Stab
+45 Overhead
+30 Right
+30 Left


Source: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25086.msg362541.html#msg362541

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

edit : nvm, useless post

[CrazyCracka420]

Also, one other point....almost every single one of the good "solo" heroes is a 2h'er.  Even some of the really good polearm users re-rolled as 2h'ers because they are the superior weapon when you are fighting solo.  Every weapon and playstyle has strengths and weaknesses, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

crazy, im not sure about your stats, some people say the op of that thread is wrong. on the, other hand i have found waltf4 stats in another thread

[CrazyCracka420]

I don't know the specifics, you can click the link to see where Im' getting my stats from...hence the "Source: link".

I do know that 2h's have superior animations than polearms.

[BlackMilk]

how are the 2h animations superior? they are longer, yes. but superior?

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

well yes i cliked the link, some people say the tests are wrong

[CrazyCracka420]

how are the 2h animations superior? they are longer, yes. but superior?

Longer = superior...

Would shorter be superior?   

And I'm not sure, but I think certain weapon types chamber their attacks quicker than others.  But I'm just talking about the ghost reach

And lactose, just watch the guys video...it shows exactly how he's testing it out.  I'm sure it's not 100% accurate, but pretty damn close.

[Rebelyell]

all polearms are OP

all Poleaxes are way to OP

its why  i am polearmman now