I know you hate horseman but...

[Xant]

Nerf cav

[Serfonz]

I never knew horses had 0 armour in the legs.

[Leesin]

I do find it stupid for the legs to be uber-vulnerable simply because that the heavier, slower more armoured horses are actually the ones easier to hit in the legs and basically avoid the armour altogether, thus really in the long run a cheaper, faster, more manueverable horse is superior.

If anything I think the Arabian Warhorse is OP, well when it is +3 loomed more so, it's ridiculously maneuverable for the speed it also moves at, it can turn on a dime and be back to full speed in a second, yet it's cheaper than any heavy horse, including the destrier, it's far superior for melee cav than armoured horses right now.

Sure it takes less damage than the bigger horses at range, but if you are aware of anyone aiming at you it's so easy to dodge shots with it. In melee with anything hitting your horses legs, it negates any worth of a heavy horse and automatically makes the better choice the Arabian, because you are far more likely to avoid that situation or keep range from an enemy.

[Diomedes]

Arabian Warhorse is pretty silly, especially with higher riding or looms.  It's maneuverability easily compensates for its apparent fragility.  I suggest that it cost more or that heavy horses cost less.

I'm with Leesin, down with the Arabian warhorse's stats

[Rebelyell]

I can agree on someway... but cav is kind of strong class where is no place for mistake, that save us from situation where we have
serve 50 50.... where 50% is cav and 50% archers

and blu sorry again but lances works fine for me...
you have length or hit power, we cant have situation where heavy lance is longest and strongest and yes I have 1 MW hevy lance
but that true we have to do something with leg damage on some heavy horses....


ahh and to evryone

IF you hate nerf cav to much archers will eat your azzzz because cav and archers are natural enemies... that work bought side sooo keep balance betwen them and

 

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

The leg thing is retarded, what should be done is removal of leg damage bonus, buffing of damage to horse head, buffing of throwing, nerfing of bump damage (heavy horses still have the advantage of riding over someone taking half their HP atm, which is fucking retarded balance-wise).

[_Tak_]

Any sort of weapon that has above 1 damage can deal some damage to your horse if it was hit in the legs. Horses legs damage thingy really needs to balance again. If you ride any sort of horse at full speed and if it was hit by some 2 handed / polearm it can deal a massive amount of hp. Not telling lies but its true. If you would like to keep the nerf like this to CAV, then reduce all horses's price

Edit : PEOPLE WHO HATE CAV SHOULD PLAY SIEGE

[Rebelyell]

i was bumped by half arab in reall life and i have to say then I had problem with walking for 4 days after that....
I dot think then any armor should help me against that hit... and heavy horsy with plate can hit you even stronger

[Brrrak]

so basically you want the opportunity  to buy some shoes for your horse ?

Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh!  Can we get the opportunity to buy armor for our horses? 

[Chagan_Arslan]

hm where is the info that horse legs have 0 armor ? i knew the damage was increased but not the way like this, interesting

@Leesin its not like arabian warhorse has been nerfed the most in the crpg (-6 maneuver) out of all horses, it still needs nerfs right ? :>

[Overdriven]

@Leesin its not like arabian warhorse has been nerfed the most in the crpg (-6 maneuver) out of all horses, it still needs nerfs right ? :>

Not to mention the increase of riding requirement.

[Kafein]

Leesin, the light horses are more or less fine, if anything they should have a speed and maneuver buff to be at least realistically comparable with the agility of people in the game. It's the heavy ones that need rebalancing to be worth their price.

Currently, the situation of cav vs good aware melee is that even against 1h you will miss and your horse or yourself will be oneshot, due to the lack of agility of your horse and the excessive agility of people. Same with ranged, except that it is much easier for the ranged guy.

This is true with any horse because of the leg nerf, so you are better using a light horse when you know you will attack aware melee and avoid projectiles.

Cav would be internally balanced if heavy horses could fight aware enemies at least as safely as infantry does.

[Radament]

Remove horse legs and add thrusters in the back , simple as that.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

In my 15 gens with a danish i never oneshoted a uninjured cataphract, then again the maximum PS i had was 8 but usually 6 or 7

[Zisa]

Leesin, the light horses are more or less fine, if anything they should have a speed and maneuver buff to be at least realistically comparable with the agility of people in the game. It's the heavy ones that need rebalancing to be worth their price.

Currently, the situation of cav vs good aware melee is that even against 1h you will miss and your horse or yourself will be oneshot, due to the lack of agility of your horse and the excessive agility of people. Same with ranged, except that it is much easier for the ranged guy.

This is true with any horse because of the leg nerf, so you are better using a light horse when you know you will attack aware melee and avoid projectiles.

Cav would be internally balanced if heavy horses could fight aware enemies at least as safely as infantry does.

Bullshit.

People are far too fucking slow, go play chess you scrub.

The crap delay for swings also gives cav an unwarranted advantage, but if it has nto been easier for you all of 2012 at least then you really are a sucky cav.

Also, if you get a chance to watch Full Metal Jousting do so.